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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by blueridgeman
Thanks, those are good points.

I kinda figured if the differential gaskets are so great, why isn't everyone using them and posting that they're the only way to go.

I come from a background in motorcycles and builds/mods there so a lot of this is new to me. I appreciate all the good advice I get here.
No problem.

There is a type of aftermarket gasket, the Lube Locker, which is great if you're changing fluid often. But I wouldn't shell out for one if I had a stock stamped cover.
Old Jun 30, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
No problem.

There is a type of aftermarket gasket, the Lube Locker, which is great if you're changing fluid often. But I wouldn't shell out for one if I had a stock stamped cover.
As a matter of personal preference, I disagree. If I have to open a diff even once, I install a Lube Locker. There's nothing wrong with the RTV method, but I personally hate doing it
Old Jun 30, 2016 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
As a matter of personal preference, I disagree. If I have to open a diff even once, I install a Lube Locker. There's nothing wrong with the RTV method, but I personally hate doing it
Yeah, that's you. My C8.25 cover is so beaten up that it wouldn't hold a Lube Locker lol
Old Jun 30, 2016 | 09:51 PM
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Not trying to start a debate, but I'm getting ready to replace my brakes tomorrow. Both front and rear with new rotors and drums as well. I figure napa premium all around will handle my needs. And I figure semi-metallic considering I hear/read ceramic isn't that great in wet weather (I see it all in Michigan). Is this true or should I be considering ceramic?

Also, in my research I found out about bedding (or breaking) in new brakes, but I've been finding different bedding-in process in my searching. Will my new stuff come with the bedding-in info? Or is there a "standard" for bedding-in new pads, rotors, shoes, and drums?

As always, sorry for being long winded.

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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TFitzPat87
Not trying to start a debate, but I'm getting ready to replace my breaks tomorrow. Both front and rear with new rotors and drums as well. I figure napa premium all around will handle my needs. And I figure semi-metallic considering I hear/read ceramic isn't that great in wet weather (I see it all in Michigan). Is this true or should I be considering ceramic?

Also, in my research I found out about bedding (or breaking) in new brakes, but I've been finding different bedding-in process in my searching. Will my new stuff come with the bedding-in info? Or is there a "standard" for bedding-in new pads, rotors, shoes, and drums?

As always, sorry for being long winded.
First off, this:

Brakes:

I've seen drum and disc brakes, drums and discs break, but never drum or disc breaks.

Bedding in is huge. google it.
Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
First off, this:

Brakes:

I've seen drum and disc brakes, drums and discs break, but never drum or disc breaks.

Bedding in is huge. google it.
Oops my bad. Fixed! I've been back and forth typing "brake" and "break" both ways for the last hour while researching. "Break" in, "Brake" pads. Honest mistake.

I have googled it, but have found a couple different processes. Just trying to figure out which is right.
Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TFitzPat87
Oops my bad. Fixed! I've been back and forth typing "brake" and "break" both ways for the last hour while researching. "Break" in, "Brake" pads. Honest mistake.

I have googled it, but have found a couple different processes. Just trying to figure out which is right.
Google "bedding in brake pads".
Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Google "bedding in brake pads".
Exactly what I searched. Received pretty straight forward directions right there. But I read the tire rack link... http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/....jsp?techid=85 and sounds like bedding in is different for each manufacturer.
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Originally Posted by TFitzPat87
Exactly what I searched. Received pretty straight forward directions right there. But I read the tire rack link... http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/....jsp?techid=85 and sounds like bedding in is different for each manufacturer.
Don't overthink it.
Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Don't overthink it.
Yeah, I tend to do that. So few moderate brakes, few higher speed heavier brakes, drive until they cool down?
Old Jun 30, 2016 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TFitzPat87
Not trying to start a debate, but I'm getting ready to replace my brakes tomorrow. Both front and rear with new rotors and drums as well. I figure napa premium all around will handle my needs. And I figure semi-metallic considering I hear/read ceramic isn't that great in wet weather (I see it all in Michigan). Is this true or should I be considering ceramic?

Also, in my research I found out about bedding (or breaking) in new brakes, but I've been finding different bedding-in process in my searching. Will my new stuff come with the bedding-in info? Or is there a "standard" for bedding-in new pads, rotors, shoes, and drums?

As always, sorry for being long winded.
Ceramic isn't great in wet weather? Hmmm.... rains an awful lot here in Florida and my ceramics have performed great in every vehicle I've ever put them on. I will say that they do better with a slotted and/or dimpled rotor. They will definitely warp some thin rotors, for sure.
Old Jul 1, 2016 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TFitzPat87
Yeah, I tend to do that. So few moderate brakes, few higher speed heavier brakes, drive until they cool down?
Yup. Bed them in and don't look back.
Old Jul 1, 2016 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TFitzPat87
Not trying to start a debate, but I'm getting ready to replace my brakes tomorrow. Both front and rear with new rotors and drums as well. I figure napa premium all around will handle my needs. And I figure semi-metallic considering I hear/read ceramic isn't that great in wet weather (I see it all in Michigan). Is this true or should I be considering ceramic?

Also, in my research I found out about bedding (or breaking) in new brakes, but I've been finding different bedding-in process in my searching. Will my new stuff come with the bedding-in info? Or is there a "standard" for bedding-in new pads, rotors, shoes, and drums?

As always, sorry for being long winded.
Used all Napa parts myself. Went with the regular rotors, NB Line, and regular drums, ND Line. Used the OE SS Line organic pads but used the UP Line brake shoes. Would not recommend buying the cheaper TS Line shoes. They do what they need to do. Couple things. For the rears drums they are going to ask you 9" or 10". Most likely 9". Smooth drum. 9". Finned drum. 10". Brake line goes into the wheel cylinder straight. 9". Goes in at an angle. 10". Do yourself a favor and at least consider buying the hardware kit and self adjuster kits for the drums
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Trying to confirm what I think I know. In '97 and '98 XJ's the soundbar is separate. Not part of the headliner. '99 to '01 are identical. Is that correct?
Old Jul 1, 2016 | 06:15 AM
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Trying to confirm what I think I know. In '97 and '98 XJ's the soundbar is separate. Not part of the headliner. '99 to '01 are identical. Is that correct?
I have a 98 & a 99 right now. The headliner are the same. I did see in some 97 that they are the same also. It depend on the month in the manufacturing year.



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