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Well I'm back and this time I've found a few random wires and hoses that arent connected to anything. I'm not sure if they need to be connected or what they go to anyone have any ideas as to what they are?
First up is this guy. A 4 prong connector it runs in the main wire loom where the IAC wires run.


I looked around and didnt see any other 4 prong connectors anywhere.
Next up is this wierd looking guy


Its sitting right below the coolant overflow bottle. Used MS paint to show where it runs through the wire loom.
Next are these two. They are near the overflow bottle also. The bigger hose looks like it might connect to the thing in the picture above? It plugs in fine but not sure if they go together. Tried following them through the wire loom but it runs by the passenger inner fender down by the battery and out twards the radiator

The smaller wire/hose looks like the end of it was broken off.
The last one is in a wire loom on the firewall and it runs to the fuse box by the battery. I didnt see any other connectors that could go with it so I am stumped.

If these are all supposed to be connected to something I'm surprised the jeep runs at all. Sorry for the long post but I didnt want to make a random thread for wires.
Edit: The 4 prong connector actually doesnt go to the IAC I was mistaken. It does run through the big wire loom that the IAC wires go through though.
First up is this guy. A 4 prong connector it runs in the main wire loom where the IAC wires run.


I looked around and didnt see any other 4 prong connectors anywhere.
Next up is this wierd looking guy


Its sitting right below the coolant overflow bottle. Used MS paint to show where it runs through the wire loom.
Next are these two. They are near the overflow bottle also. The bigger hose looks like it might connect to the thing in the picture above? It plugs in fine but not sure if they go together. Tried following them through the wire loom but it runs by the passenger inner fender down by the battery and out twards the radiator

The smaller wire/hose looks like the end of it was broken off.
The last one is in a wire loom on the firewall and it runs to the fuse box by the battery. I didnt see any other connectors that could go with it so I am stumped.

If these are all supposed to be connected to something I'm surprised the jeep runs at all. Sorry for the long post but I didnt want to make a random thread for wires.
Edit: The 4 prong connector actually doesnt go to the IAC I was mistaken. It does run through the big wire loom that the IAC wires go through though.
Last edited by Brennidon; May 19, 2015 at 02:38 PM.
Well my passenger side power window finally ate ****. And it fell down when that happened.
How hard is it to replace the entire door? Do you just take out those few Torx bits, and unhook all the power leads? Lock will be different but who cares.
How hard is it to replace the entire door? Do you just take out those few Torx bits, and unhook all the power leads? Lock will be different but who cares.
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From: New Harmony UT
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6 Power Tech
It is a Rough Country 3" lift with AAL. Does the brand make a difference?
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Sorry dude.
A standard shackle relocation bracket will give you additional lift as well as let you move your shackle mounting point forward to correct that vertical angle.
Now. All this said, your spring will continue to sag. This I can guarantee. You also stand a small chance of the factory leaves actually snapping due to the amount of tension on them (they were already fatigued when the AAL was added, then you added a heavy bumper, and presumably you want to beat on this thing a bit, maybe even put stuff in the cargo area).
This would be a good time to buy new leaf springs if you can find the dough. If not, relocation brackets are a solid investment.
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And thanks salad. Your logic and discussion is good as always.
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I'm shying away from relocation brackets simply because I think the leafs will remain flat or worse over time. I'm not adverse to spending some money on the right leaf springs. The question now is, which are the right leaf springs? Since I'm planning to keep the bumper/carrier and put stuff in the rear AND beat it a bit I was thinking of erring on the side of caution and getting 3.5" or 4.5" leaf packs. Any thoughts on this?
And thanks salad. Your logic and discussion is good as always.
And thanks salad. Your logic and discussion is good as always.
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From: New Harmony UT
Year: 1998
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Thanks for the recommendation. I guess I just needed someone else to confirm what I already suspected. I just ordered 3.5" leaf springs and new U-bolts.
No, I don't lick fish.



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Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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Yes, but were you planning on replacing the door to begin with or are you replacing the whole door to fix your window?
No, I don't lick fish.



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JP Magazine did a writeup on them a while back... basically the only difference will be the location of the door striker, but that's a pretty simple fix.
http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/bo...j-door-upgade/
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From: New Harmony UT
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Brought the leafs home last night. Soaked all attachment bolts with Liquid Wrench over night but these bolts are not budging. I'm searching the forums and YouTube but so far nothing that's really helpful. Anyone have a link to a good DIY for removing the leaf springs?
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Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 -300000+ Mi.
Brought the leafs home last night. Soaked all attachment bolts with Liquid Wrench over night but these bolts are not budging. I'm searching the forums and YouTube but so far nothing that's really helpful. Anyone have a link to a good DIY for removing the leaf springs?
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Year: 1998
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Here is an interesting finding on Penetrating Oils
Recently “Machinist Workshop Magazine” did a test on penetrating oils. Using nuts and
bolts that they ‘scientifically rusted’ to a uniform degree by soaking in salt water, they then
tested the break-out torque required to loosen the nuts. They treated the nuts with a variety
of penetrants and measured the torque required to loosen them.
This is what they came up with:
Nothing: 516 lbs
WD-40: 238 lbs;
PB Blaster: 214 lbs;
Liquid Wrench: 127 lbs,
Kano Kroil: 106 lbs
(ATF)/Acetone mix (50/50): 50 lbs.
This last “shop brew” of 50% automatic transmission fluid and 50% acetone appears to beat
out the commercially prepared products costing far more.
Recently “Machinist Workshop Magazine” did a test on penetrating oils. Using nuts and
bolts that they ‘scientifically rusted’ to a uniform degree by soaking in salt water, they then
tested the break-out torque required to loosen the nuts. They treated the nuts with a variety
of penetrants and measured the torque required to loosen them.
This is what they came up with:
Nothing: 516 lbs
WD-40: 238 lbs;
PB Blaster: 214 lbs;
Liquid Wrench: 127 lbs,
Kano Kroil: 106 lbs
(ATF)/Acetone mix (50/50): 50 lbs.
This last “shop brew” of 50% automatic transmission fluid and 50% acetone appears to beat
out the commercially prepared products costing far more.
I feel like the acetone just ate up the salt water corrosion best. However I don't think one oil vs another will be night and day difference. I used a breaker bar and deep well socket (3" extension on the front frame leaf bolts). A lot of people end up breaking the welded nut inside the uni-frame. Just give everything it time extra to soak. You can reach some of the welded nuts inside the frame rail by some access holes to get some penetrating oil on it. You might need to apply some heat (use common sense since it's soaked with oil). Break it free as you would like you're tapping new threading. Ease it out, and tightening it back in, and so fourth to keep the threads clean.
Last edited by indeepwithajeep; May 21, 2015 at 01:49 PM.
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Year: 1988
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This info has been floating around for while...
I feel like the acetone just ate up the salt water corrosion best. However I don't think one oil vs another will be night and day difference. I used a breaker bar and deep well socket (3" extension on the front frame leaf bolts). A lot of people end up breaking the welded nut inside the uni-frame. Just give everything it time extra to soak. You can reach some of the welded nuts inside the frame rail by some access holes to get some penetrating oil on it. You might need to apply some heat (use common sense since it's soaked with oil). Break it free as you would like you're tapping new threading. Ease it out, and tightening it back in, and so fourth to keep the threads clean.
I feel like the acetone just ate up the salt water corrosion best. However I don't think one oil vs another will be night and day difference. I used a breaker bar and deep well socket (3" extension on the front frame leaf bolts). A lot of people end up breaking the welded nut inside the uni-frame. Just give everything it time extra to soak. You can reach some of the welded nuts inside the frame rail by some access holes to get some penetrating oil on it. You might need to apply some heat (use common sense since it's soaked with oil). Break it free as you would like you're tapping new threading. Ease it out, and tightening it back in, and so fourth to keep the threads clean.




