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Herp Derp Jerp

Joined: Nov 2011
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
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From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
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From: Huntsville, Tn
Year: Different Years (I have several XJ's)
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
My buddy is building up his stock motor. He wants to stay as stock as possible but is gunna clean up and refreshen the head by rebuilding it and milling it a hair. My question is this: should he rebuild the head with all brand new stock parts or are there a set of replacement springs he can use that is better? He's looking for a little added hp.
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From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
My buddy is building up his stock motor. He wants to stay as stock as possible but is gunna clean up and refreshen the head by rebuilding it and milling it a hair. My question is this: should he rebuild the head with all brand new stock parts or are there a set of replacement springs he can use that is better? He's looking for a little added hp.
I'll bet all his valves etc are fine also.
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From: Huntsville, Tn
Year: Different Years (I have several XJ's)
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
That was my thought as well but I told him I'd ask the almighty forum! Lol. He races his also so the springs are wore out. I'm thinking that if he would just rebuild with all brand new stock stuff and mill the deck a hair to clean it up it will give him what he's looking for.
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Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 119
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From: Minersville Pennsylvania
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 H.O.
I bi-passed my heater core due to a defective heater valve recently. I hate using plastic on cooling systems. I don't like the idea of coolant constantly flowing through my heater core either. On the school buses I worked on we used manual heater valves like this.

Would it be okay for a 4.0 to have this heater flow completely blocked to/from the heater core?
I thought about going this route as well, to keep the factory style heater control working like oem with the upgrade of metal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371055387982...84.m1423.l2649

Would it be okay for a 4.0 to have this heater flow completely blocked to/from the heater core?
I thought about going this route as well, to keep the factory style heater control working like oem with the upgrade of metal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371055387982...84.m1423.l2649
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From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
[QUOTE=Comanche1987;2863296]I bi-passed my heater core due to a defective heater valve recently. I hate using plastic on cooling systems. I don't like the idea of coolant constantly flowing through my heater core either. On the school buses I worked on we used manual heater valves like this.

Would it be okay for a 4.0 to have this heater flow completely blocked to/from the heater core?
I thought about going this route as well, to keep the factory style heater control working like oem with the upgrade of metal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371055387982...84.m1423.l2649
HCV is absolutely unnecessary. The heat is controlled by doors, not valves. I live in Arizona and eliminate HCVs all the time. If it didn't work, would I still be doing it?
Whaddya think?

Would it be okay for a 4.0 to have this heater flow completely blocked to/from the heater core?
I thought about going this route as well, to keep the factory style heater control working like oem with the upgrade of metal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371055387982...84.m1423.l2649
HCV is absolutely unnecessary. The heat is controlled by doors, not valves. I live in Arizona and eliminate HCVs all the time. If it didn't work, would I still be doing it?
Whaddya think?
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From: Minersville Pennsylvania
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 H.O.
I'm not concerned about the heat in the cabin, I am worried more about extra wear to the heater core. I might just go ahead and connect them straight and hope my original 1991 core doesn't bite the dust.
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From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
How so?
Ever look at it this way?
Since there is continuous circulation through the core, there is less likelihood that deposits are gonna build up in it?
Herp Derp Jerp

Joined: Nov 2011
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II

It's not ideal as the heater core is the bypass circuit for the water pump. It helps bleed the system as well as preventing too much strain on the pump when the thermostat is closed.
As for the metal HCV. School bus systems are a tad different from a regular automobile (no blend door sealing the heater core off) - normally just a heater core without any doors, or stuffed under a seat or something.
Really valving is not necessary in this system at all. Factory killed it in late '96, and desert people like cruiser54 here demonstrate that the theoretical gains really don't pan out in practice.
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From: Justin, TEXAS
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
So I'm puting a g2 4.88 ring and pinion on my 8.8. I'm doing this by myself and I've never done it before. I have extensive mechanical skills just this is one thats scaring me.
So I also got a g2 master install kit.
I'm watching videos of Ford 8.8 gear installs and that's what I'm going off.
There's a good Ford racing video about gears and I'v been using that.
When it got to them putting the pinion on they just used the old pinion shim with the new pinion and put the new bearings, seals, races, oil slinger,and crush sleeve on. I did that and pressed on my new bearing and slid the pinion into the housing and tourqued it down. Ensuring my resistance was within spec of course.
So, my question is do y'all think I'm okay with the one stock pinion shim on these gears? I don't want to have to keep pulling and pressing my new timken bearing on the pinion if I have the wrong depth.
So I also got a g2 master install kit.
I'm watching videos of Ford 8.8 gear installs and that's what I'm going off.
There's a good Ford racing video about gears and I'v been using that.
When it got to them putting the pinion on they just used the old pinion shim with the new pinion and put the new bearings, seals, races, oil slinger,and crush sleeve on. I did that and pressed on my new bearing and slid the pinion into the housing and tourqued it down. Ensuring my resistance was within spec of course.
So, my question is do y'all think I'm okay with the one stock pinion shim on these gears? I don't want to have to keep pulling and pressing my new timken bearing on the pinion if I have the wrong depth.




