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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kuzican
ok I'm at a loss here.

Here's my problem. Turn the Jeep on, voltage gauge reads 12ish. after a little bit drops all the way down and check gauges light comes on.

Jeep has a brand new Alternator and battery. The old Alternator tested positive as well.
When I first installed the new alternator it was at 14 volts where it should be. drove it for at least 2 hours, and then later that day drove it to my brothers an hour away. (probably not the smartest thing, but whatever). picked up a trailer full of junk. about 15 minutes in on my way back check gauges light comes on and voltage has dropped.

it's a 1998 so the voltage regulator is in the PCM/ECU or so I've read. tried another one, and same problem.

first thing I did was check the ground right next to the battery and it appears to be good.

any other ideas? Tomorrow my uncle is coming by with his fancy volt meter and electrical knowledge. Figured I'd post in here to try and get some other ideas.
And youve used a brass brush on all grounds and the battery terminals and applied die electric grease.

Do you have a spare PCM you can try out
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:06 PM
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Where do I ask for info?
Right here! But only once daily, so you've met your quota
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:07 PM
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I replaced my alternator on my 1997 Cherokee and the jeep turns now but will not start up. It did with the old alternator. The battery is good I am almost 95% sure of that. I have probably been riding with a (going bad ALT) for a couple of months at least and I know starter is good. I know it has to be something way simple,,been raining here so hard to trouble shoot right now Any thoughts would help,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Thanks
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:08 PM
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Salad, Kuzi said he tried that. If it isn't a grounding issue, battery and alt are known good, and PCM has been swapped, it sounds like a wiring issue to me. It isn't my specialty, but perhaps you have a bare wire in your harness?
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gmichael
I replaced my alternator on my 1997 Cherokee and the jeep turns now but will not start up. It did with the old alternator. The battery is good I am almost 95% sure of that. I have probably been riding with a (going bad ALT) for a couple of months at least and I know starter is good. I know it has to be something way simple,,been raining here so hard to trouble shoot right now Any thoughts would help,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Thanks
Do you get a click when you turn the key? Does it try to start? Nothing at all?
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Do you know what brand? If not, can you post pics of the shocks and springs?
I have no idea. They dont have any brand names on them. Im currently on my phone so I dont think I can post pictures.
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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Once a day Oh Man I gotta work tomorrow already missed today I'm doomed ,,,
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
And youve used a brass brush on all grounds and the battery terminals and applied die electric grease.

Do you have a spare PCM you can try out
Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Salad, Kuzi said he tried that. If it isn't a grounding issue, battery and alt are known good, and PCM has been swapped, it sounds like a wiring issue to me. It isn't my specialty, but perhaps you have a bare wire in your harness?
salad? thats a different user tim....

wiring is what I was thinking as well. my uncle is an electrician and used to work on vehicles a lot in his younger days. (had a CJ7) so I'm hoping he can figure out exactly where the problem is.
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CherokeePurp

I have no idea. They dont have any brand names on them. Im currently on my phone so I dont think I can post pictures.
Ah. What color are the shocks and springs, and do the leaf springs have these two clips on them?

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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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salad? thats a different user tim....
Sorry, Nick! I should've known salad wouldn't make that mistake...
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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Tries to start it keeps turning but just will not fire up, before it would start in 1 sec weird..
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gmichael
Tries to start it keeps turning but just will not fire up, before it would start in 1 sec weird..
Are you getting fuel at the rail?
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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It's almost like I've pulled a wire out of socket but I don't think I have
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:20 PM
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Fuel at rail I'm not sure don't really no how to check that
Old Feb 26, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kuzican
ok I'm at a loss here.

Here's my problem. Turn the Jeep on, voltage gauge reads 12ish. after a little bit drops all the way down and check gauges light comes on.

Jeep has a brand new Alternator and battery. The old Alternator tested positive as well.
When I first installed the new alternator it was at 14 volts where it should be. drove it for at least 2 hours, and then later that day drove it to my brothers an hour away. (probably not the smartest thing, but whatever). picked up a trailer full of junk. about 15 minutes in on my way back check gauges light comes on and voltage has dropped.

it's a 1998 so the voltage regulator is in the PCM/ECU or so I've read. tried another one, and same problem.

first thing I did was check the ground right next to the battery and it appears to be good.

any other ideas? Tomorrow my uncle is coming by with his fancy volt meter and electrical knowledge. Figured I'd post in here to try and get some other ideas.

IIRC, there is a small wire, (green?) Coming off the alt that goes to the PCM, if you ground that wire, the alt should go to full charge, if it does, then a faulty PCM.....RR

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