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Old Jul 2, 2017 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
Biggest problem with this is you have to mix it every time you use it is what I've heard.
Originally Posted by CurrySoSpicy
Yea I think it's because the acetone evaporates. But if it saves me from busting my knuckles. I'm game.
So I am thinking buying the gallon of PB Blaster was not a total waste. I get a metal can out of the deal and can premix the tranny fluid/acetone after I use it all up?
Old Jul 2, 2017 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by salad
Why? XJs are squished station wagons for families trying to get to the cottage. Maybe a Gama Goat is more what you were looking for?
Serious water fording requires a LOT of expense. Vehicles built for that have pressurized axles to keep the water out.
Truth. Not to say you CAN'T get em into water, but you gotta be willing to face the follow-up procedures so you don't end up with an expensive paperweight.

Old Jul 2, 2017 | 01:31 PM
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Ran some errands this afternoon. Stopped by the hardware store and advanced auto.

Old Jul 2, 2017 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CurrySoSpicy
Ran some errands this afternoon. Stopped by the hardware store and advanced auto.

Look at you getting all fancy
Old Jul 2, 2017 | 01:48 PM
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Look at you getting all fancy
I think it's instagram worthy, even though I don't have one of those.
Old Jul 2, 2017 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CurrySoSpicy
I think it's instagram worthy, even though I don't have one of those.
Out of curiosity. How much did that setup cost you? I wonder how it compares to the cost of the other penetrating options
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Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
Out of curiosity. How much did that setup cost you? I wonder how it compares to the cost of the other penetrating options
I bought the cheapest 1 QT ATF on the shelf for $5.39
Oiler can was $7.99
One quart of Acetone $7.48

So that will make two quarts or 64 OZ of the concoction.

Omitting the price of the oiler can and looking at the price of the solution itself that is that is roughly 20 cents an OZ.

Compared to PB blaster @ 11 OZ can for $3.76 on amazon. That is roughly 34 cents an ounce.

No one says you have to use the oiler can. You could keep it in metal can and paint it on with an acid brush. All in price could be even cheaper.

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Old Jul 3, 2017 | 08:43 AM
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usually when i crank the jeep starts right away, no hesitation. recently about half of the time i come to start the jeep i get a small hesitation before it fires, almost sounds like it's going to sputter but once it cranks over it runs fine.

i'm wondering if it's worth the time of cleaning the plugs, cap and rotor to see if it helps any? last time those were changed was about 2 years ago, or 15-20k miles.
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usually when i crank the jeep starts right away, no hesitation. recently about half of the time i come to start the jeep i get a small hesitation before it fires, almost sounds like it's going to sputter but once it cranks over it runs fine.

i'm wondering if it's worth the time of cleaning the plugs, cap and rotor to see if it helps any? last time those were changed was about 2 years ago, or 15-20k miles.
Clean the throttle body and IAC first.
Old Jul 3, 2017 | 09:18 AM
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Clean the throttle body and IAC first.
noted, thanks.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
1) ATF & acetone
2) AeroKroil
3) Liquid Wrench
4) PB Blaster

I've had situations where LW and PB have helped me out, but they don't always make a difference. Depends on the specific situation
I'd like to add 3M multipurpose lubricant to this list. Works much better than PB. Haven't used Liquid Wrench in a while, but I'd say it probably works as well as if not better than LW... definitely better than PB, that's for sure.

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Old Jul 4, 2017 | 03:29 AM
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I'd like to add 3M multipurpose lubricant to this list. Works much better than PB. Haven't used Liquid Wrench in a while, but I'd say it probably works as well as if not better than LW... definitely better than PB, that's for sure.

https://www.amazon.com/3M-08898-Mult.../dp/B000E6YTY8

Didn't even know that 3M made one. Cheaper at the Napa believe it or not. Plus might even cost me less seeing how I work at one. I wouldn't believe the 16 oz stated in the specs though. Picture of the can says 10.5 oz like on Amazon.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MMM08898
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Originally Posted by Ralph77
Didn't even know that 3M made one. Cheaper at the Napa believe it or not. Plus might even cost me less seeing how I work at one. I wouldn't believe the 16 oz stated in the specs though. Picture of the can says 10.5 oz like on Amazon.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MMM08898
Yeah, amazon was just the first site that came up with it when I did a quick google search to give example. Should be readily available at most parts stores.

EDIT: Holy cow, 9.44?!?! I didn't even pay attention to that haha
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Removed my inner fender well. Piece of foam fell out. Sorry for the lousy pictures. Looks like it has glue residue on one side. There is a piece still in there at the back of the front fender. Right in front of the door hinges. By the shape of the piece still in there it almost looks like the piece that fell out fits in the piece still in there. Anybody know the placement for this when I put it back together?
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Old Jul 4, 2017 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1991Jeep_Man
Dumb question. When wiring a relay with no 87a pin usage, does it matter whether you use pin 30 or pin 87 as the input from your 12v source? I mistakenly wired some relays with my 12v starting at pin 87. If this will be detrimental, I'll redo the wiring. Thanks!
Nope not at all. The other side (86 & 86) may matter depending on the type used, but not on the 'load' side.

Originally Posted by Rods2ndxj
I have recently acquired a 2000 XJ, have to get it emission checked and check engine light is on. It will not pass with the light on. I used a code scanner and the message says P1491 - Radiator fan relay control circuit. I can reset the codes, but the check engine light comes right back on at next start. I assume the auxilary fan was plugged into the wiring loom somewhere, but is now bypassed. The fan is now wired to a different relay (says Ford on it) atttached to the inside of the passenger fender under the hood, with wiring ran thru the firewall to the inside and has a switch attached to manually turn it off and on.

My question is, where was the fan originally plugged in and can it be jumpered or something to get rid of the code and keep the check engine light off?
The electrical side shouldn't be too big of a problem, unless the previous owner cut things out. You'll want to start rummaging around beside the left (driver's side) headlight. You should find a 2-pin connector with fairly heavy wire. It's tied into the same harness that the headlights go through. You might want to remove the air cleaner to get more room to look.

The bigger concern is WHY this was done. Some people think that because the PCM doesn't turn the fan on constantly there's something wrong... of course the PCM won't turn them on until certain refrigerant pressure or 218*°F engine coolant temperature. Some people do this to deal with heat soak issues from the little catalytic converters. Be aware that you may be looking at another issue that this is covering up.


Originally Posted by Danger12
97 XJ 4.0. Yesterday it wouldn't start unless I gave it gas, then would died soon as I let off the gas. Started one time but barely sputtered idle for about 10 seconds then died. Finally started normal and drove it 6 hours with no problems. Sometimes it will kind of stall soon as I leave my driveway. Does this sound like the TPS going bad?
Strong possibility that your Idle Air Controller is just gummed up. Once the gum warms, the motor is able to move. Take the throttle body and IAC off and give 'em a clean: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/cleaning-tb-iac-84496/

Originally Posted by 4x4jeepmanthing
Replacing RE 3.5 leaf springs, ive been drowning everything in trans fluid/acetone.

anything im over looking for the install of new ones? breaker bar, pb blaster ready, maybe buy a propane torch. they arent terribly rusted since installing the lift however on stock leaf to shackle was a Mother******. hoping for the best, trying not to be assured its easy.
You seem to be set. For what it's worth, MAPP gas is the way to do for working on vehicles. Propane is for plumbing - doesn't get very hot.

Originally Posted by cruiser54
I cannot stand the smell of PB.

And, I don't think it works well.
Me neither... it certainly excels at at dripping everywhere and making things orange, though.

Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
1) ATF & acetone
2) AeroKroil
3) Liquid Wrench
4) PB Blaster

I've had situations where LW and PB have helped me out, but they don't always make a difference. Depends on the specific situation
Originally Posted by SatiricalHen
I've seen this data floating around for a while. Liquid Wrench has recently changed formulations (at least here) and is NOWHERE near as good as it used to be. The old one smelled like high sulphur diesel fuel and really crept into cracks. The new formulation heavily advertises a PTFE additive and smells like some kind of uber-toxic carpet cleaner ****. It comes out all foamy. Aside from giving me a headache it isn't anywhere near as effective.

Originally Posted by Ralph77
Removed my inner fender well. Piece of foam fell out. Sorry for the lousy pictures. Looks like it has glue residue on one side. There is a piece still in there at the back of the front fender. Right in front of the door hinges. By the shape of the piece still in there it almost looks like the piece that fell out fits in the piece still in there. Anybody know the placement for this when I put it back together?
Basically it just jams in there. It's common for people to use a foam pool noodle in place of the factory piece. The purpose is to keep sand out of the hinges.

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