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Old Jul 6, 2017 | 05:55 PM
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Well I'm a dummy, just found out the tie rod end is supposed to twist. It just seems that the bushings on that end and on the drag link end are pretty ****ty looking.

My main issue is this: I can't get the axle nut off to replace my hubs. I've tried impact, then I tried a 4 foot breaker which ended up snapping the 3/4-1/2" adapter that i borrowed from a mechanic friend. I've sprayed it, everything. Please don't tell me it's reverse threaded!!

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Old Jul 6, 2017 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Noah Wallace
Well I'm a dummy, just found out the tie rod end is supposed to twist. It just seems that the bushings on that end and on the drag link end are pretty ****ty looking.

My main issue is this: I can't get the axle nut off to replace my hubs. I've tried impact, then I tried a 4 foot breaker which ended up snapping the 3/4-1/2" adapter that i borrowed from a mechanic friend. I've sprayed it, everything. Please don't tell me it's reverse threaded!!

Thanks
The good news is that it's not reverse threaded. However it likes to be really stuck. I broke my breaker bar couple times so no worries. Just keep going at it.
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Noah Wallace
Well I'm a dummy, just found out the tie rod end is supposed to twist. It just seems that the bushings on that end and on the drag link end are pretty ****ty looking.

My main issue is this: I can't get the axle nut off to replace my hubs. I've tried impact, then I tried a 4 foot breaker which ended up snapping the 3/4-1/2" adapter that i borrowed from a mechanic friend. I've sprayed it, everything. Please don't tell me it's reverse threaded!!

Thanks
Yikes! That's a stubborn one. Have you been using a torch?
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 09:47 AM
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2000 XJ Limited 4.0

Drove the 20 miles to work today in pretty high heat. Truck has AC but I was not using it. I have a habit at glancing at the gauges (I drive a 2000 with 189K so I have too) and all was normal the whole way here. I pulled into the parking lot and smelled oil. I immediately looked at the gauges and temp was at 210, slightly higher than normal but not hot and oil pressure just a little below where it normally runs. I saw a little smoke coming out of the engine compartment.

I killed the engine, popped the hood and looked for signs of oil. Nothing. Nothing leaking underneath either that I could see. I checked the oil, it was full, but looked a little blacker than usual.

Car cooled down, I started it back up and everything looks normal with the exception of the oil pressure. it is still just slightly below where it normally runs. It usually runs just under 30-35 @ idle.

What should I check first? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 98 Cherokee Classic
2000 XJ Limited 4.0

Drove the 20 miles to work today in pretty high heat. Truck has AC but I was not using it. I have a habit at glancing at the gauges (I drive a 2000 with 189K so I have too) and all was normal the whole way here. I pulled into the parking lot and smelled oil. I immediately looked at the gauges and temp was at 210, slightly higher than normal but not hot and oil pressure just a little below where it normally runs. I saw a little smoke coming out of the engine compartment.

I killed the engine, popped the hood and looked for signs of oil. Nothing. Nothing leaking underneath either that I could see. I checked the oil, it was full, but looked a little blacker than usual.

Car cooled down, I started it back up and everything looks normal with the exception of the oil pressure. it is still just slightly below where it normally runs. It usually runs just under 30-35 @ idle.

What should I check first? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Honestly, I'd check for leaks in the power steering hoses. They'll spray right onto the exhaust manifold. Might have to go to full lock to see it. Ask me how I know.
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wizardpc
Honestly, I'd check for leaks in the power steering hoses. They'll spray right onto the exhaust manifold. Might have to go to full lock to see it. Ask me how I know.
Good call. It was a power steering hose leaking at the quick connect.

Sooooooooo relieved.

Thanks for the tip.
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 01:54 PM
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I was at my local pick a part and sitting under a mid 90's grand Cherokee was either the Dana 44 or Chrysler 8.25. I didn't have my phone to verify which one it was I know it had smashed bottom, don't remember if it was rounded or sharp edges but it doesn't look like my d35. My question is this. They want 190$ for the entire axle. For mild to mid trail riding would it be a good idea to spend the money? Or could I just get the differential for 32$ and it still be an upgrade?
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ethan94
I was at my local pick a part and sitting under a mid 90's grand Cherokee was either the Dana 44 or Chrysler 8.25. I didn't have my phone to verify which one it was I know it had smashed bottom, don't remember if it was rounded or sharp edges but it doesn't look like my d35. My question is this. They want 190$ for the entire axle. For mild to mid trail riding would it be a good idea to spend the money? Or could I just get the differential for 32$ and it still be an upgrade?
I don't really understand the question. You can't pull just the differential from the axle and put it in your d35 if it's not a d35. An 8.25 differential only fits an 8.25 axle and a d44 differential only fits a d44 axle. If you have a Cherokee it's not really worth it to pull a grand Cherokee axle out to use since it has a different spring and shock set up. Also it has to be a 35 or 44 I believe because the grand never had an 8.25 as far as I know. The cheapest/easiest axle upgrade from a d35 is an 8.25 from a 97+ Cherokee. But my personal opinion don't take whatever axle is in the grand.

Also, on another note fill out your info so we know what year, axles, trans and engine you have so we can better help you.
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 06:50 PM
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1999 xj, I replaced the switches on the driver's door, repair the wires in the door jam on the drivers door, they all unlock and lock with the key off , but when I start the veh it will only unlock the doors and not lock the doors . driving me nuts !!
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ethan94
I was at my local pick a part and sitting under a mid 90's grand Cherokee was either the Dana 44 or Chrysler 8.25. I didn't have my phone to verify which one it was I know it had smashed bottom, don't remember if it was rounded or sharp edges but it doesn't look like my d35. My question is this. They want 190$ for the entire axle. For mild to mid trail riding would it be a good idea to spend the money? Or could I just get the differential for 32$ and it still be an upgrade?
Nope. ZJs came with either a D35 or an aluminum D44a. The first is the same an XJ came with, the second is a weak piece of crap.

In either case you'd need the entire axle, and you'd need to cut off the suspension and weld on leaf perches. Same amount of effort as something like setting up a Ford 8.8", which is an actual upgrade.

Originally Posted by winginit
1999 xj, I replaced the switches on the driver's door, repair the wires in the door jam on the drivers door, they all unlock and lock with the key off , but when I start the veh it will only unlock the doors and not lock the doors . driving me nuts !!
Ahh, unfortunately, the master lock module is the passenger door!

At least you will have lots of new reliable wiring when you are done
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 10:10 PM
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What is this?

Under the back seat behind the driver.
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 10:15 PM
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Nothing like that in my 1999. What year is your XJ? These things were built for nearly 30 years
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cane
quick question because i never noticed. are the rear wheels supposed to be center in the wheel wells? mine are about an inch closer to the front. i have adjustable shackles i'm about to install, would that change anything?
They're centered in the wheel wells until you lift it, then you need it to be a little off center because the whole axle will swing BACK when your suspension is compressed.... so you want it to swing INTO the center of the wheel well and not back against the rear quarter/rocker.

The only way to change that is to increase the distance between the main leaf eye and the centering pin on the leaf pack.
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Nothing like that in my 1999. What year is your XJ? These things were built for nearly 30 years
1992 Limited, power everything. Seatbelt tensioner? It appears directional.
Old Jul 7, 2017 | 10:50 PM
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Thanks. So basically don't waste the time or effort on it, the d35 is fine for now. If I got the gears out of the differential, would it give my 87 2.5l more get up and go?



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