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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by XJwonders
tie rods & misc bushings are only moog products I ll use. Ball joints, or any other products are inferior now.

Hub bearings doesn't last long anymore. Ball joints are poorly manufactured, the tolerances crapped out lately. Coils sag way too quickly. You get the idea.

Might as well as buy cheaper house brands because the quality is the same and you pay less up front.

My local NAPA store says they won't sell these Moog products anymore because of too many returns.
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 09:08 AM
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My local NAPA store says they won't sell these Moog products anymore because of too many returns.
Wow
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 11:56 AM
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So I've been dinkin around (kind of like tinkering but not actually doing anything) and discovers that my o2 sensor has been destroyed and wires ripped, I don't know how long it's been like this and I don't know when I'll be able to drop $70 for a new one.
My question being what kind of side effects might I see with this NOT INTENTIONALLY disconnected o2 sensor, until I can get it replaced. Will I run to rich, to lean, is there a way I could TEMPORARILY bypass the sensor with no ill effects?
It's on a 90 4.0 auto.
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 12:27 PM
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Hi all. I'm attempting to replace my fuel line from the hard line to the motor. Already have the line, connectors, and clamps. I noticed the metal retaining bracket that goes over the hard line/fuel line connection is really rusted, too. Where can I find that piece? Does it have a particular name so I sound like I know what I'm talking about? Thanks for the help.
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PNWjeeper
So I've been dinkin around (kind of like tinkering but not actually doing anything) and discovers that my o2 sensor has been destroyed and wires ripped, I don't know how long it's been like this and I don't know when I'll be able to drop $70 for a new one.
My question being what kind of side effects might I see with this NOT INTENTIONALLY disconnected o2 sensor, until I can get it replaced. Will I run to rich, to lean, is there a way I could TEMPORARILY bypass the sensor with no ill effects?
It's on a 90 4.0 auto.
Without input from the O2 sensor the ECU will default to some pre-programmed approximations. It will run slightly richer and use more fuel.... in other words like it's run since the problem's happened. No need to bypass.

BTW, NTK 23553 is less than $45 USD on Rock Auto.
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Without input from the O2 sensor the ECU will default to some pre-programmed approximations. It will run slightly richer and use more fuel.... in other words like it's run since the problem's happened. No need to bypass. BTW, NTK 23553 is less than $45 USD on Rock Auto.
Fair enough. Thank you NTK was $69.99 at Orileys.

One other question, would it ran more rich then say false input due to a cracked exhaust manifold?

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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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Fair enough. Thank you NTK was $69.99 at Orileys.

One other question, would it ran more rich then say false input due to a cracked exhaust manifold?
No - with a cracked manifold air enters the exhaust stream (and exhaust leaves) and the O2 sensor reads artificially lean, causing the ECU to add way more fuel. Without that input it just stays in open loop.
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 01:47 PM
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No - with a cracked manifold air enters the exhaust stream (and exhaust leaves) and the O2 sensor reads artificially lean, causing the ECU to add way more fuel. Without that input it just stays in open loop.
That's what I was thinking. Looks like I'll add new manifold to the list of things to increase my mileage. Thank you.
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
No - with a cracked manifold air enters the exhaust stream (and exhaust leaves) and the O2 sensor reads artificially lean, causing the ECU to add way more fuel. Without that input it just stays in open loop.
Originally Posted by PNWjeeper
That's what I was thinking. Looks like I'll add new manifold to the list of things to increase my mileage. Thank you.
That cracked mani dumps fuel to the point of stalling and smelling like an open fuel tank (or at least mine did). Thanks again, salad! Ol' girl almost went to the scrap heap before you helped me figure out what was wrong
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 06:21 PM
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How much work would it be to swap out the column on my 98 for one from a durango or a dakota? Column shift ftw.

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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 06:21 PM
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How much work would it be to swap out the column on my 98 for one from a durango or a dakota? Column ahift ftw.
a lot
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wizardpc
How much work would it be to swap out the column on my 98 for one from a durango or a dakota? Column ahift ftw.
What's wrong with the console shifter?
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 07:58 PM
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What's wrong with the console shifter?
I had a 93 police package with column shift. It frees up a lot of space for stuff. Like uhf/vhf radios. Maybe moar cupholderz lol
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 08:39 PM
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If you wanted to adapt it, I'd expect a Comanche to be much easier than a Dodge. And AMC favored GM steering until Chrysler started designing things.
Old Sep 28, 2016 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by wizardpc
I had a 93 police package with column shift. It frees up a lot of space for stuff. Like uhf/vhf radios. Maybe moar cupholderz lol
Go to http://car-part.com/searched 1986 Comanche found 4.



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