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CF Veteran
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,419
Likes: 1
From: Detroit, MI
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6 4.0L
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 291
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From: Snohomish County, WA
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Didn't you contribute to some of those pages? you're name is in there.
yeah I did ' do bofum'
Was really asking about the holes/ difference between your instruction page, and what I encountered.
Guess it doesn't really matter. I think It will be just fine.
ALSO --
I did the Distributor Indexing ...
My block has a different scale than the one in your pictures, So, I'm gonna use the hole/ tube as the 0 zero
so, thanks
-- Also, You are welcome to use the attached pics on your site. I'll try to get a better one of the Harm. balancer / indicator scale in AM
yeah I did ' do bofum'
Was really asking about the holes/ difference between your instruction page, and what I encountered.
Guess it doesn't really matter. I think It will be just fine.
ALSO --
I did the Distributor Indexing ...
My block has a different scale than the one in your pictures, So, I'm gonna use the hole/ tube as the 0 zero
so, thanks
-- Also, You are welcome to use the attached pics on your site. I'll try to get a better one of the Harm. balancer / indicator scale in AM
CF Veteran
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,419
Likes: 1
From: Detroit, MI
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6 4.0L
Help with rear leaf spring shackle!
Right now I'm in the process of putting a 2" lift On a stock 2001xj. I put 2" cool spacers on the front and attempted to put the 1-2" adjustable shackles on the rear. Ran into a few problems.
Mainly couldn't figure out how to drop the leaf springs enough to fit that longer shackle in.
I jacked the jeep up, took both tires off, put jack stands under the frame. Unbolted both rear shackles from the frame and leaf springs. Tried jamming the new longer ones in and couldn't get enough clearance between the frame and leaf springs. I'm gonna try unbolt the shocks and possibly the front of the leaf springs from the frame as well. Hopefully that will add some droop to the axel.
Also found 1 bolt in the shackle mount area on the frame that I need to grind off so I can fit the bigger shackles in.
Last thing the exhaust. The end of the exhaust pipe where it curves down is in the way of adding the new shackle. If I grind say 6 inches off is that gonna be a problem??
Any ideas on how I could get more clearance between the leaf springs and frame to get those bigger shackles in???
The end
Right now I'm in the process of putting a 2" lift On a stock 2001xj. I put 2" cool spacers on the front and attempted to put the 1-2" adjustable shackles on the rear. Ran into a few problems.
Mainly couldn't figure out how to drop the leaf springs enough to fit that longer shackle in.
I jacked the jeep up, took both tires off, put jack stands under the frame. Unbolted both rear shackles from the frame and leaf springs. Tried jamming the new longer ones in and couldn't get enough clearance between the frame and leaf springs. I'm gonna try unbolt the shocks and possibly the front of the leaf springs from the frame as well. Hopefully that will add some droop to the axel.
Also found 1 bolt in the shackle mount area on the frame that I need to grind off so I can fit the bigger shackles in.
Last thing the exhaust. The end of the exhaust pipe where it curves down is in the way of adding the new shackle. If I grind say 6 inches off is that gonna be a problem??
Any ideas on how I could get more clearance between the leaf springs and frame to get those bigger shackles in???
The end
Herp Derp Jerp

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 18,251
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Help with rear leaf spring shackle!
Right now I'm in the process of putting a 2" lift On a stock 2001xj. I put 2" cool spacers on the front and attempted to put the 1-2" adjustable shackles on the rear. Ran into a few problems.
Mainly couldn't figure out how to drop the leaf springs enough to fit that longer shackle in.
I jacked the jeep up, took both tires off, put jack stands under the frame. Unbolted both rear shackles from the frame and leaf springs. Tried jamming the new longer ones in and couldn't get enough clearance between the frame and leaf springs. I'm gonna try unbolt the shocks and possibly the front of the leaf springs from the frame as well. Hopefully that will add some droop to the axel.
Also found 1 bolt in the shackle mount area on the frame that I need to grind off so I can fit the bigger shackles in.
Last thing the exhaust. The end of the exhaust pipe where it curves down is in the way of adding the new shackle. If I grind say 6 inches off is that gonna be a problem??
Any ideas on how I could get more clearance between the leaf springs and frame to get those bigger shackles in???
The end
Right now I'm in the process of putting a 2" lift On a stock 2001xj. I put 2" cool spacers on the front and attempted to put the 1-2" adjustable shackles on the rear. Ran into a few problems.
Mainly couldn't figure out how to drop the leaf springs enough to fit that longer shackle in.
I jacked the jeep up, took both tires off, put jack stands under the frame. Unbolted both rear shackles from the frame and leaf springs. Tried jamming the new longer ones in and couldn't get enough clearance between the frame and leaf springs. I'm gonna try unbolt the shocks and possibly the front of the leaf springs from the frame as well. Hopefully that will add some droop to the axel.
Also found 1 bolt in the shackle mount area on the frame that I need to grind off so I can fit the bigger shackles in.
Last thing the exhaust. The end of the exhaust pipe where it curves down is in the way of adding the new shackle. If I grind say 6 inches off is that gonna be a problem??
Any ideas on how I could get more clearance between the leaf springs and frame to get those bigger shackles in???
The end
Disconnecting the drive shaft, shocks, and sway bar will give you all the droop you need.
Why not just wire up an override switch for the factory electric fan?
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 503
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From: Jax, FL
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
I think my question got lost in the shuffle. Do I need to also loosen the shackle to frame bolts or just the bolts that run through the springs and bushing? Really, I don't want to do it unless one of the forum experts thinks the minor "lift" will cause driveline/TC/Diff problems.
Beach Bum
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 6,123
Likes: 22
From: Cape Hatteras, North Carolina
Year: 2000 WJ
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Having to clearance a bumper bolt that protrudes into shackle box is normal.
Exhaust pipe or hanger may need manipulation to clear shackle, I had to cut off the last six inches then attach a 6" tip to pipe.
Running Clayton oversize shackles (the bushing is what is oversize)
Beach Bum
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 6,123
Likes: 22
From: Cape Hatteras, North Carolina
Year: 2000 WJ
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I think my question got lost in the shuffle. Do I need to also loosen the shackle to frame bolts or just the bolts that run through the springs and bushing? Really, I don't want to do it unless one of the forum experts thinks the minor "lift" will cause driveline/TC/Diff problems.
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Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 503
Likes: 0
From: Jax, FL
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Thanks! I gave up because it was just spinning. Right now there's some after market tow hitch I have to remove to see if I can get a wrench on the spinning nut. I heard a *crack* and assume that was the dreaded welded nut inside the frame breaking free. Is there an access point on the frame to get at that nut?
CF Veteran
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,419
Likes: 1
From: Detroit, MI
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6 4.0L
Thanks! I gave up because it was just spinning. Right now there's some after market tow hitch I have to remove to see if I can get a wrench on the spinning nut. I heard a *crack* and assume that was the dreaded welded nut inside the frame breaking free. Is there an access point on the frame to get at that nut?
Gotta cut into the pocket that holds the welded nut. See post 5 in this thread...
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/fro...-broke-210280/
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Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 503
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From: Jax, FL
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Gotta cut into the pocket that holds the welded nut. See post 5 in this thread...
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/fro...-broke-210280/
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/fro...-broke-210280/
Thank you!
So I have an np242hd transfer case sitting in my garage and I'm picking up a 231j tomorrow. The 242 was sitting outside for an unknown amount of time but I paid $40 for it. Mostly just want to crack it open and see how it works. The 231 was in a shed for an unknown amount of time as well. But im only paying $40 for this one too. I currently have a 231 on my jeep now. I want to rebuild the 231 with a heavy duty chain and put an SYE on it and run it on my jeep.
My question is, are there any special tools required to do this? I'm pretty good with a wrench but I don't have any experience inside diffs and transfer cases. Yet. I'll obviously post some pictures up of the insides so you guys can tell me if anything looks bad to the point that I shouldn't run it, but I'm just curious is I need dial calipers or micrometers or any of those fancy tools.
My question is, are there any special tools required to do this? I'm pretty good with a wrench but I don't have any experience inside diffs and transfer cases. Yet. I'll obviously post some pictures up of the insides so you guys can tell me if anything looks bad to the point that I shouldn't run it, but I'm just curious is I need dial calipers or micrometers or any of those fancy tools.









