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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by XJwonders
yep
I just used mine to inspect a bird's nest.

The day I got it, I handed the camera to my wife to see, and then pointed the tip up my nostril quickly!!!
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 09:30 AM
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I just used mine to inspect a bird's nest. The day I got it, I handed the camera to my wife to see, and then pointed the tip up my nostril quickly!!!
I tried to examine my throat but I couldn't go very far.
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by XJwonders
So I used a borescope to inspect the number one cylinder on my 4.0.

-the quench chamber/ head gasket area. (I don't know if that's the proper term for it) it's looking crusty yellow. Is that normal?

-the gap around the piston and the cylinder wall is not the same. There's a spot on the piston that got bigger gap than the rest of the piston and that gap have yellow stuff on it.

-the dish on the piston look gray and brown with a spot that look like when you get a sun burn and your skin start peeling off. There's also a line on it. Not sure if that's normal or it's a crack.

-one of the valves look very yellow/white while the other valve look very brown.

-I don't see any visible scoring marks on the wall but I did notice very very faint black line, not sure if that's a scoring mark or just a carbon smear.
What's your concern with that cylinder?

See if others look the same so we have a baseline to work with.

Valves are generally different color.
Black line is probably carbon.
Pistons are not smooth on top and have casting lines.
The piston won't always be centered since it's gloating on the rings.

The yellow could be today's gasoline.
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
What's your concern with that cylinder? See if others look the same so we have a baseline to work with. Valves are generally different color. Black line is probably carbon. Pistons are not smooth on top and have casting lines. The piston won't always be centered since it's gloating on the rings. The yellow could be today's gasoline.
the cylinder one has been misfiring ever since I got it. I checked the compression and this one is about 30-35 psi less than the rest of the engine. I determined that it's either the head gasket or bad rings based on the fact that the compression shot up after I added ATF to the cylinder.

Good idea I ll check the other cylinders. My concern about the yellow stuff was that it could be antifreeze?
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 10:22 AM
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Anyone happen to know the paint code for Patriot Blue?
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJeep_01
Anyone happen to know the paint code for Patriot Blue?
DT8991 for your '01
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
DT8991 for your '01
Thank you sir
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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How do you find paint codes? I need the red for my 99 to cover up POR15.
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 11:15 AM
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How do you find paint codes? I need the red for my 99 to cover up POR15.
I use paintref.com

Flame Red: DT3521
Chili Pepper Red: DT3458
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kgm
How do you find paint codes? I need the red for my 99 to cover up POR15.
Door sticker. Paint code is circled in green,
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by XJwonders
the cylinder one has been misfiring ever since I got it. I checked the compression and this one is about 30-35 psi less than the rest of the engine. I determined that it's either the head gasket or bad rings based on the fact that the compression shot up after I added ATF to the cylinder.

Good idea I ll check the other cylinders. My concern about the yellow stuff was that it could be antifreeze?
Antifreeze would clean the top of the piston all shiny.

Could have carbon under a valve.......

remember this?
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Old Jun 5, 2016 | 07:01 PM
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I'm just curious on why you have to change the pilot bearing when taking a motor out of a jeep that's an automatic and putting it a manual shift jeep?
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Oscar_jx95
I'm just curious on why you have to change the pilot bearing when taking a motor out of a jeep that's an automatic and putting it a manual shift jeep?
different sizes
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Oscar_jx95
I'm just curious on why you have to change the pilot bearing when taking a motor out of a jeep that's an automatic and putting it a manual shift jeep?
Automatic has no pilot bearing. Manual needs one......
Old Jun 5, 2016 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Antifreeze would clean the top of the piston all shiny. Could have carbon under a valve....... remember this?
oh yes I steam clean the engine once every two weeks. I just good a look in other cylinders...

They are in amazingly clean condition with zero crusty yellow stuff. Hell the top of the pistons are so clean without any scale... Unlike the first cylinder.

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