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Old May 18, 2016 | 12:36 PM
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I have a 1998 xj 4.0 4wd limited, 171k. I am think I am having voltage regulator issues but I am not sure. I have tried to research this on here but haven't found an answer for my specific issue. Now time for the long story of bs that has me wanting to set fire to the dang thing. It all started with my cps going out 6 months ago. Since then.... Replaced CPS- all good, then P0301- replaced cap, rotor, wires, plugs - not fixed. Had leak down and compression - checked out good according to the shop. Step 2 to this problem, BG44k, Seafoam, Water. Made it happy for a little while but the code has returned and I plan on doing my valve springs soon. Then the voltage started getting mental. Dropping down from 14 to 12.5-13 only after driving for about 30 mins, occassional stuttering/almost stalling while in traffic ( I don't know if this is due to the misfire or voltage). Had the alternator and battery tested- both good. Pulled every fuse checked with test light couldn't find a drain. Decided to replace the alternator in case it was the diodes that were bad. For ease of reading I'll list symptoms:
1 Starts fine all the time
2 Sits at 14v every morning then drops after driving a while
3 Occassionaly will rev itself up from 750rpm to 1200 ish on start up after I've been driving around town etc, does not do this while in drive or driving.
4 Volts drop to 12.5 - 13 esp. when I put on my a/c.
This morning after it was good and hot I put on my a/c full blast, turned on my headlights, radio etc just to see what it would do. Attached voltmeter to the battery and watched it drop from 13.8 all the way down to 12.3 and it drops a little more when its in drive.
My grounds are all good. I'm sure I have given information overload here but I don't know if all of these problems are related (bad ECU) or just individual shinanigans happening all at once. Thank you in advance for any opinion or help and if it is my voltage regulator what ECU do I want to make sure I get from the dismantler?
Old May 18, 2016 | 02:35 PM
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I need to enlarge a hole in a bushing sleeve so I can use the 9/16 bolts that came with my no lift shackles. All I have is a cordless drill to make it happen. What would you guys recommend so i don't offset the hole?
Old May 18, 2016 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TFitzPat87
I need to enlarge a hole in a bushing sleeve so I can use the 9/16 bolts that came with my no lift shackles. All I have is a cordless drill to make it happen. What would you guys recommend so i don't offset the hole?
The correct bushing sleeves
Or at least a drill press

I know that isn't what you wanna hear, but I wouldn't even try it
Old May 18, 2016 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
The correct bushing sleeves Or at least a drill press I know that isn't what you wanna hear, but I wouldn't even try it
and that's saying a lot haha
Old May 18, 2016 | 03:18 PM
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and that's saying a lot haha
Maybe I'm finally getting better lol

I mean, I actually consider shocks to be pretty important now on my 9" lifted Wrangler with no sway bar
Old May 18, 2016 | 03:35 PM
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Maybe buy the correct hardware? M14x2.0 120mm ISO Class 10.9
Old May 18, 2016 | 04:00 PM
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Maybe I'm finally getting better lol I mean, I actually consider shocks to be pretty important now on my 9" lifted Wrangler with no sway bar
now you're getting crazy. Shocks are just a waste of money like steering stabilizers.
Old May 18, 2016 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rcguymike
Any lift? Your driveline angle could be too steep? Could try a transfer case drop to see if it helps any?
Nope, stock suspension. The only thing I've done in the two years I've had it is replace the rear leafs with the Doorman springs everyone uses.

Originally Posted by Cane
the rotational play is to be expected, what you're looking for is lateral movement.

from the video the joint seems fine, you could always try to disconnect the driveshaft and play around with the output yoke. same thing on your transfer case (remove the driveshaft and try to wiggle the output shaft and look for any left-right-top-bottom play)

when's the last time you greased your slip yoke? i wasn't aware you had to grease it and it was dry when I first greased it. doesn't hurt to check while you have the driveshaft out.

do you have any lift? if yes, have a t-case drop? SYE? having a lift without any of those could be the source of your problem, like it was said above, because of the driveline angle.

it could be like me and the pinion bearing is on its way out. do you have a rumble type of sound when decelerating too? at highway speed I have an intermittent humming/vibration, it goes away between 40-50mph and it comes back when I let go of the throttle at around 35-40. i've determined it's my pinion bearing even if there is no play at the yoke.

hope it helps
I greased the slip yoke last June, and I've put about 5k miles on it since then. It's starting to stick again, so it's probably time to hit it with grease. Stock suspension with no SYE, though the leafs are new. I should recheck my u-bolts. The vibration is most intense when on the throttle, though it doesn't disappear entirely when at neutral throttle or coasting when it's in the "sweet spot" (~40 and 75-80 mph). Part of me says I should just pick up an angle gauge and check the driveline angles to at least eliminate that variable.
Old May 18, 2016 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Maybe buy the correct hardware? M14x2.0 120mm ISO Class 10.9
My bad guys, a tad more info would have been helpful. I'm like 90% through installing HD No Lift SRB's, so all the hardware was correct. The bushing sleeve was just a hair to small for the 9/16ths bolt. Bought a 9/16 drill bit, and it opened it easy. Wasn't expecting it to work out so smoothly, that's why I asked.
Old May 19, 2016 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MAVERICK1231
yes a 12" fan
I think the radiator cap might be a problem it came with the radiator it is only a 1.1 psi which i am going to change.

do you recommend using a 13 or 16psi radiator cap
A single fan? What radiator are you running? If it's the square-shaped one, that's too small for the 6 cyl. If it's rectangular one - you need two fans. Either way, there's your overheating problem.

As far as the PSI of the radiator cap, I'm not sure what the OEM recommended is, but the one on mine is a 16 PSI cap.
Old May 19, 2016 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Basslicks

As far as the PSI of the radiator cap, I'm not sure what the OEM recommended is, but the one on mine is a 16 PSI cap.
13 or 16psi, depending on model year
Old May 19, 2016 | 09:27 AM
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The label on mine says 18PSI(probably replaced by PO). What does that affect?
Old May 19, 2016 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MAVERICK1231
I apologoze if anyone was offended with the all caps post just shouting to get some quick attention this problem is frustrating. I know it is over heating because it pushes the coolant back up the reservior and alot of steam coming from the radiator cap.
Am about to change the radiator cap to either a 13 or 16 psi.
I am running a electric fan that comes on with the ignition key with no shroud it is mounted slightley to the right side of radiator.
Its is a new radiator and the system has been flushed several times already

Thanks Mr. Pink
for the tips and wil check to see if your recommendations help
Hang on a second.

You have one electric fan?

Where's the mechanical clutch fan? The electric fan on these vehicles is auxilliary only...
Old May 19, 2016 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rcguymike
The label on mine says 18PSI(probably replaced by PO). What does that affect?
It allows your cooling system to build up to a higher pressure, similar to putting more air in your tires. As long as the system can handle it, you're fine. I don't know the pressure limit that the factory system was designed for.

On the technical side, increasing the pressure of the system will raise the boiling point proportionally. Water boils at 212°F. If you put that water in a sealed system at 10psi, the it boils around 242F. At 15psi, that temperature raises to 257F. With a 50/50 mix of coolant, those numbers change to approximately 226°F, 253F, and 265F, respectively.
Old May 19, 2016 | 10:25 AM
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I have a load grinding noise coming from the left front wheel. At first I thought it was road noise coming from the tire but when I put the window down I hear it gets much loader and I can tell it's coming from the wheel and not the tire. I think it may be my front wheel hub. Any ideas what this can be?



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