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NP207 vs NP231.
How similar are the cases on these? Are the mounting holes in the cross member the same for these?
AX-5 vs. AX-15.
Are the lengths any different between these two?
I am looking to go long arm soon and need to know if I can use my current setup of tranny and t-case. I know I have the "un-popular" and "weaker" options and plan to upgrade those as funds allow. My current stock arm bushings are pretty rough and would like to go straight to long arms and not have to replace bushings in current arms or get aftermarket short arms. I am set on a kit already and will only replace my tranny and t-case if I absolutely have to.
How similar are the cases on these? Are the mounting holes in the cross member the same for these?
AX-5 vs. AX-15.
Are the lengths any different between these two?
I am looking to go long arm soon and need to know if I can use my current setup of tranny and t-case. I know I have the "un-popular" and "weaker" options and plan to upgrade those as funds allow. My current stock arm bushings are pretty rough and would like to go straight to long arms and not have to replace bushings in current arms or get aftermarket short arms. I am set on a kit already and will only replace my tranny and t-case if I absolutely have to.
No, I don't lick fish.



Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
NP207 vs NP231.
How similar are the cases on these? Are the mounting holes in the cross member the same for these?
AX-5 vs. AX-15.
Are the lengths any different between these two?
I am looking to go long arm soon and need to know if I can use my current setup of tranny and t-case. I know I have the "un-popular" and "weaker" options and plan to upgrade those as funds allow. My current stock arm bushings are pretty rough and would like to go straight to long arms and not have to replace bushings in current arms or get aftermarket short arms. I am set on a kit already and will only replace my tranny and t-case if I absolutely have to.
How similar are the cases on these? Are the mounting holes in the cross member the same for these?
AX-5 vs. AX-15.
Are the lengths any different between these two?
I am looking to go long arm soon and need to know if I can use my current setup of tranny and t-case. I know I have the "un-popular" and "weaker" options and plan to upgrade those as funds allow. My current stock arm bushings are pretty rough and would like to go straight to long arms and not have to replace bushings in current arms or get aftermarket short arms. I am set on a kit already and will only replace my tranny and t-case if I absolutely have to.
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I sub it... I have to run.. I was just stopping in too see whats going on with you guys. Me Im doing great. This season of fishing is going to be a rush...
Ok Cory is saying come on lets go.. I have to run.. Sending all you guys good thoughts... Peace



I sub it... I have to run.. I was just stopping in too see whats going on with you guys. Me Im doing great. This season of fishing is going to be a rush...
Ok Cory is saying come on lets go.. I have to run.. Sending all you guys good thoughts... Peace

No, I don't lick fish.



Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 11,169
Likes: 26
From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
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Posts: 641
Likes: 1
From: Anderson, SC
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Lol, I'm going on a couple of hours of sleep! I knew it sounded wierd. I read that there are 9" and 10" drums. I just want to know which mine are or if it even makes a difference on what brake shoes to get. Without taking off the wheels that number is all I could read on the drums and I'm not sure I would trust a tape measurement.
No, I don't lick fish.



Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Lol, I'm going on a couple of hours of sleep! I knew it sounded wierd. I read that there are 9" and 10" drums. I just want to know which mine are or if it even makes a difference on what brake shoes to get. Without taking off the wheels that number is all I could read on the drums and I'm not sure I would trust a tape measurement.
Easy way to tell man... if the drum has fins, it's 10", if it's smooth, it's 9"
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Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 641
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From: Anderson, SC
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
AFAIK, there are no differences in how they mount to the crossmember. As far as how they bolt together, I don't think so, but I'm not sure. The biggest thing you need to look out for is the year split on 231 and 242 cases. In 1990, they changed it to a 23 spline input on the transfer case. I don't think your 207 has the 23, I believe it's still the 21 from earlier years.
At this point I want to get the B. Lee 3 link and need to know if the cross member will bolt up to my current setup. I asked him if it would on his thread about them but he was not sure and wanted pictures. I would send him the pictures but I am on the other side of the world from my Jeep that is why I am asking here. I do plan to swap to an AX-15 and NP231 when funds allow and he knows it will bolt up to that combo. Just not wanting to get rid of them yet if they are still working good.
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Joined: Nov 2015
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From: Orange County, CA
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 l-6
Hey All,
I am in need of a new alternator, or at least I think so. I went wheeling last weekend and went through some water. On my drive home the "check gauges" light came on and the battery charging indicator was indicating 9 volts. I put the car in the driveway and put the battery on to charge. A couple days later I started the car and the dial was indicating a charge of 12 volts. I drove the car less than two miles and the "check gauges" light came on and the dial was indicating 9 volts.
Any ideas as to the issue? Should I be looking to get a new alternator? If so, any ideas on a good replacement that wont kill my wallet.
Also, I am in need of a new driver seat, anyone in Southern California have or know of anyone looking to get rid of seats?
I am in need of a new alternator, or at least I think so. I went wheeling last weekend and went through some water. On my drive home the "check gauges" light came on and the battery charging indicator was indicating 9 volts. I put the car in the driveway and put the battery on to charge. A couple days later I started the car and the dial was indicating a charge of 12 volts. I drove the car less than two miles and the "check gauges" light came on and the dial was indicating 9 volts.
Any ideas as to the issue? Should I be looking to get a new alternator? If so, any ideas on a good replacement that wont kill my wallet.
Also, I am in need of a new driver seat, anyone in Southern California have or know of anyone looking to get rid of seats?
No, I don't lick fish.



Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 11,169
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From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
I have an '86 and my current setup is a 4.3 v6, AX-5, NP207 the vacuum disconnect 30 and a 35 rear both with stock 4.10's.
At this point I want to get the B. Lee 3 link and need to know if the cross member will bolt up to my current setup. I asked him if it would on his thread about them but he was not sure and wanted pictures. I would send him the pictures but I am on the other side of the world from my Jeep that is why I am asking here. I do plan to swap to an AX-15 and NP231 when funds allow and he knows it will bolt up to that combo. Just not wanting to get rid of them yet if they are still working good.
At this point I want to get the B. Lee 3 link and need to know if the cross member will bolt up to my current setup. I asked him if it would on his thread about them but he was not sure and wanted pictures. I would send him the pictures but I am on the other side of the world from my Jeep that is why I am asking here. I do plan to swap to an AX-15 and NP231 when funds allow and he knows it will bolt up to that combo. Just not wanting to get rid of them yet if they are still working good.
I did find a thread when researching the differences between the ax5/np207 vs. ax15/np231 that might help you out a little more. It looks like there are differences between the mounting setups, but it also looks like the differences are easily overcome with light modification:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=956031
Post 5 is the tranmission/transfer cases side by side and post 6 is the mounting plate.
Thank you very much for that link. It looks like I can use the B. Lee cross member and just fab up that little bit of mount for now.
My tranny feels pretty good right now. I drove the Jeep from New Orleans to Fort Worth. Only did the trip one way when I moved. Did great on the highway. 70-80mph most of the way getting rough 17-18mpg. Not bad considering I have 33x12.5's under it.
I knew my axles had nothing to do with what I was asking. I was just giving a little more info on my setup.
My tranny feels pretty good right now. I drove the Jeep from New Orleans to Fort Worth. Only did the trip one way when I moved. Did great on the highway. 70-80mph most of the way getting rough 17-18mpg. Not bad considering I have 33x12.5's under it.
I knew my axles had nothing to do with what I was asking. I was just giving a little more info on my setup.
No, I don't lick fish.



Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Thank you very much for that link. It looks like I can use the B. Lee cross member and just fab up that little bit of mount for now.
My tranny feels pretty good right now. I drove the Jeep from New Orleans to Fort Worth. Only did the trip one way when I moved. Did great on the highway. 70-80mph most of the way getting rough 17-18mpg. Not bad considering I have 33x12.5's under it.
I knew my axles had nothing to do with what I was asking. I was just giving a little more info on my setup.
My tranny feels pretty good right now. I drove the Jeep from New Orleans to Fort Worth. Only did the trip one way when I moved. Did great on the highway. 70-80mph most of the way getting rough 17-18mpg. Not bad considering I have 33x12.5's under it.
I knew my axles had nothing to do with what I was asking. I was just giving a little more info on my setup.
I have a 91XJ and I'm looking to trade my boat for a parts Jeep. What would be my best year to get? I don't need a motor but would like to upgrade my 5 speed for a auto. Also upgrade axles.
No, I don't lick fish.



Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 11,169
Likes: 26
From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
96 is a crap shoot of parts. Some will fit, some won't (I have a 92 DD and a 96 parts Jeep... this is why I know).
97+ is nice for the body parts (if you're looking to change or update the appearance)... the doors have a full window instead of split window and they changed the hatch to steel from fiberglass.
Downside is, pretty much NONE of the electronics will work because it's OBDII... AND IIRC, they swtiched to the low-pinion D30... but if it was equipped with a chrysler 8.25 rear, you have the benefit of 3" axle tubes and 29 spline axle shafts.
The 99+ has a good u-shaped intake manifold (though there is debate as to whether or not it really does any good - there is a certain amount of space saved)... and they added bellows to the exhaust manifold that helps it keep from cracking... BUT, the infamous 0331 head kicked in that year which had poor casting that can lead to cracked heads.
That's all I can think of right now.. I'm sure someone will chime in with more info and/or corrections.




