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Herp Derp Jerp

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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
When you leave oil in there things get worse... Drain & Fill
And since I know it's coming, NP231 will run on basically any ATF you can get on the shelf today that isn't an obscure or unique application.
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From: DE
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6 4.0
SAE Grade 8 or ISO Class 10.9
No, and that bull about "DON'T CHANGE THE FLUID!" is a giant steaming load of horse ****...
When you leave oil in there things get worse... Drain & Fill
And since I know it's coming, NP231 will run on basically any ATF you can get on the shelf today that isn't an obscure or unique application.
No, and that bull about "DON'T CHANGE THE FLUID!" is a giant steaming load of horse ****...
When you leave oil in there things get worse... Drain & Fill
And since I know it's coming, NP231 will run on basically any ATF you can get on the shelf today that isn't an obscure or unique application.
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
They didn't have Grade 8 with that pitch. Is it serious enough that I should buy dealer bolts instead of Grade 5?
No. Different additives can eat up important things in the wrong application. The TC doesn't have any of those metals that are affected by any common additives, so you can use whatever is cheap. An auto trans needs whatever fluid it is spec'd for
No. Different additives can eat up important things in the wrong application. The TC doesn't have any of those metals that are affected by any common additives, so you can use whatever is cheap. An auto trans needs whatever fluid it is spec'd for
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From: Carrollton, GA
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Inline 6 4.0L High Output
They were like $16 total for all 4 at the dealer when I had to have some that day.
They're a really weird metric thread pitch. See if you can find any Allen cap head bolts that are 5/16-24. A lot of times those are grade 8 and in fine thread available locally.
They're a really weird metric thread pitch. See if you can find any Allen cap head bolts that are 5/16-24. A lot of times those are grade 8 and in fine thread available locally.
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Herp Derp Jerp

Joined: Nov 2011
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Oh I had already planned on buying whatever the store carried haha all ATF is the same I would think just like gear oil or any automotive oil has to pass tests. It's a NP242 by the way, doesn't change anything. I don't change my tranny fluid but do check it so if it's ever low than full I'll add more.
As for your transmission, you are not doing it any favors by leaving oil in it that is sheared down and filthy. You'd change underwear if you pooped yourself, right? Get it out of there!
Seriously it's a bad idea. Driveline and suspension are hardened for a reason.
Indeed, all the good stuff at Fastenal here is stupid Allen head. Works okay for my hubs (need to get the right bit though...) but I can see that being a real PITA for a drive shaft with limited space.
Whats the consensus on good rotors and performance brake pads i.e. EBC, Hawk, powerstop etc. Looking to do an overhaul on the GFs cherokees brakes.
Not looking to do a WJ brake swap or anything like that yet
Not looking to do a WJ brake swap or anything like that yet
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
True. I'll go ahead and get dealer bolts.I guess I'm not understanding how exactly the load comes into play. I would think the shear strength of a Grade 5 would be adequate, considering the driveshaft has to accelerate. I wouldn't expect a sudden force strong enough to cause a problem.
But you win. I'll do it right
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From: Southern Maryland
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 1999 4.0L
And since I know it's coming, NP231 will run on basically any ATF you can get on the shelf today that isn't an obscure or unique application.
Okay Mabey this is where I'm welcome everywhere else people chew me out , okay I'm new to this forum and all I'm tryin to do is find out how to fix my rusted out floor an the cancer in the rear back fender, and what all fluids need changed and what parts I should replaced that are most likely worn out , all I need is some of your alls advice without being dick about it
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
Regarding fluid choice for the AW4:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/aw4...77/#post257755
Dex is the correct fluid. Chrysler used Dex in AW4s until the warranty ran out on all their AW4-equipped vehicles. At that point, they suddenly started using ATF+, which they own
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/aw4...77/#post257755
Dex is the correct fluid. Chrysler used Dex in AW4s until the warranty ran out on all their AW4-equipped vehicles. At that point, they suddenly started using ATF+, which they own
Herp Derp Jerp

Joined: Nov 2011
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
True. I'll go ahead and get dealer bolts.I guess I'm not understanding how exactly the load comes into play. I would think the shear strength of a Grade 5 would be adequate, considering the driveshaft has to accelerate. I wouldn't expect a sudden force strong enough to cause a problem.
But you win. I'll do it right
Hardly. Dexron VI is a good fluid but it's far from the "only" juice allowed in an AW4. They were designed under Dexron IIE, and sold with Dexron III/Mercon and JWS-3309. Castrol has a nice synthetic ATF that meets all of those requirements - almost like it's tailor-made for the AW4.
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From: Southern Maryland
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 1999 4.0L
Hardly. Dexron VI is a good fluid but it's far from the "only" juice allowed in an AW4. They were designed under Dexron IIE, and sold with Dexron III/Mercon and JWS-3309. Castrol has a nice synthetic ATF that meets all of those requirements - almost like it's tailor-made for the AW4.




