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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by VTJeep
didn't they revise this and say atf4 is ok in the aw4?
Nah. Salad can answer this more intelligently than I can. But, short answer is ATF+4 is not good in an AW4.
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by C H E R O K E E 98XJ
One other thing, can I put the same stuff in my np231 transfer case then? If so, how much does it take? I've read 1 qt?
Yes. same stuff. 2.2 pints per FSM.
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Yes. same stuff. 2.2 pints per FSM.
Good stuff. Thanks!
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54

Nah. Salad can answer this more intelligently than I can. But, short answer is ATF+4 is not good in an AW4.
Lol

Once the transmission Chrysler didn't design fell out of warranty, they superceded the part number for the correct, more expensive lubricant with one for the cheap stuff of a different specification that they had on hand. This isn't the only piece of third party equipment they pulled this bull**** with, either: there's an oft-quoted "Ask A Jeep Engineer" session on Jeep Forum where fanboys went ape**** because some guy from Chrysler confirmed that a part number was 10W30. They simply stopped carrying the correct fluid, mysteriously about the length of time a drive train warranty would take to expire on a 1999 Jeep...

Aisin-Warner has never specified any fluids other than Dexron II and Dexron III for the AW4. ATF+4 (compatible with ATF+3, which was available at the time of the AW4's production and NOT recommended by Aisin-Warner) is known to cause slipping in many transmissions.
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Lol

Once the transmission Chrysler didn't design fell out of warranty, they superceded the part number for the correct, more expensive lubricant with one for the cheap stuff of a different specification that they had on hand. This isn't the only piece of third party equipment they pulled this bull**** with, either: there's an oft-quoted "Ask A Jeep Engineer" session on Jeep Forum where fanboys went ape**** because some guy from Chrysler confirmed that a part number was 10W30. They simply stopped carrying the correct fluid, mysteriously about the length of time a drive train warranty would take to expire on a 1999 Jeep...

Aisin-Warner has never specified any fluids other than Dexron II and Dexron III for the AW4. ATF+4 (compatible with ATF+3, which was available at the time of the AW4's production and NOT recommended by Aisin-Warner) is known to cause slipping in many transmissions.
Whoopdy doo. Salad to the rescue!!! Thanks, bud.
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
Well i open this question for everyone cause my brain now hurts from searching many many pages.

Which year Dakota or similar, minus the mj, shackles can i use to give me less than an 1" of lift but also clear the RC relocator brackets.

Wanna get this cleared away so i can measure for rear shocks.

If i can't come across anything ill use your mj ones clown. Just want to bang this **** out and i stall another xj main to finally get a solid rear end ride but not get too much extra lift
Bump since i see salad and cruiser here.

Tomorrow gonna measure these 2001 Dakota shackles i see online
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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huh. good to know. thanks!
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch

Bump since i see salad and cruiser here.

Tomorrow gonna measure these 2001 Dakota shackles i see online
No idea. No S10s nearby?

Originally Posted by cruiser54
Whoopdy doo. Salad to the rescue!!! Thanks, bud.
Any time cheif
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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I'm still stuck on fluids. shackles are out of the question right now...............
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch

Bump since i see salad and cruiser here.

Tomorrow gonna measure these 2001 Dakota shackles i see online
From what I know, rough country made it hard to use most shackles with their kit.
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by salad

No idea. No S10s nearby?

Any time cheif
Originally Posted by cruiser54
I'm still stuck on fluids. shackles are out of the question right now...............
Ugh no, you failed me lol ;P.

Ill use any easily obtainable shackles other than an mj that can net .5"-.75"

Im still gonna research and hoping by weeks end have my new rear suspension mapped out and ready for install
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
I'm still stuck on fluids. shackles are out of the question right now...............
but which way do you adjust the brake stars you ****er.
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by salad

Lol

Once the transmission Chrysler didn't design fell out of warranty, they superceded the part number for the correct, more expensive lubricant with one for the cheap stuff of a different specification that they had on hand. This isn't the only piece of third party equipment they pulled this bull**** with, either: there's an oft-quoted "Ask A Jeep Engineer" session on Jeep Forum where fanboys went ape**** because some guy from Chrysler confirmed that a part number was 10W30. They simply stopped carrying the correct fluid, mysteriously about the length of time a drive train warranty would take to expire on a 1999 Jeep...

Aisin-Warner has never specified any fluids other than Dexron II and Dexron III for the AW4. ATF+4 (compatible with ATF+3, which was available at the time of the AW4's production and NOT recommended by Aisin-Warner) is known to cause slipping in many transmissions.
So should I drain all the ATF-4 out and refill with Dex/Merc? Maybe that is what is causing my AW4 to slip.
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
I'm still stuck on fluids. shackles are out of the question right now...............
... I'm not gonna lie.. My mind went straight to the gutter.
Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by VTJeep
but which way do you adjust the brake stars you ****er.
My secret. Keeping it from disrespectful folks.



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