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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CherokeeJon

It just happens to be the rims I got for free have more backspacing, not a personal choice.

I also am getting both a track bar and t case drop from the guy with the lift. So, immediately, all I need to invest in is LCAs? Then maybe uppers and an SYE down the road?
Nice great start. Def get the lCA and eventually the SYe. Don't stress uppers use that money for armor. Like a ruffstuff diff cover or zJ tie rod
Old Nov 27, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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How hard is a steering column swap
Old Nov 27, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CherokeeJon
I need a quick response, I've been reading about control arms and get mixed answer. I'm going to a 4 inch lift, I feel as if I would need all new control arms but I've heard some guys continue to run the stock ones. If I need new ones, what length will work and where could I find some cheap?
U also will need a sye.
Old Nov 27, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CherokeeJon
Even with rims with more back spacing they'll rub? I'm just trying to get the lift together and make it drivable then purchase the more needed, but not necessary items after Christmas
Back spacing has nothing to do with where the axle sits in the fenders. What I'm saying is that with stock LCAS, your axle WILL be pulled to the rear of the vehicle thus rubbing the rear of the inner fender. Don't get ancy. Suspension/steering is something I would not rush to do. Do it once and do it right!

Originally Posted by sycoglitch
LCAs go for 130. Just try and do it. I'm in the same boat I'm getting my 3" lift tomorrow and even with that you should get lCA. Your ride quality and everything will that you. Don't forget the track bar soon too and possible either TCD or SYE. Not til scare you
With the Trac Bar, I'm at 6" with a drop bracket on the Trac Bar... my axle is off center by 1/4". It all depends on the rig. I'm still 2wd, and when I did the lift, I had 4* shims and a TC drop with 2.5" schackles. The shackles rotate the pinion angle up and withthe shims, it was too much. So, SYE may not be necessary. My buddy is on 9" with the stock shaft, shims, and a tc drop and is running fine. He does have a SYE on the way for flex reasons.

Originally Posted by CherokeeJon
It just happens to be the rims I got for free have more backspacing, not a personal choice.

I also am getting both a track bar and t case drop from the guy with the lift. So, immediately, all I need to invest in is LCAs? Then maybe uppers and an SYE down the road?
Correct. As I just said, the track bar drop may be fine. I'd measure the axle centering to see where it is. And backspacing is from the axle out, not where the tire/axle sits in the fender well. I'd get LCA's before I'd drive it. It won't be safe due to the stress on the front steering components. They can only be pulled back for so long before TRE's start going out etc etc. LCAs IMMEDIATELY. UCA, depends. I'm still fine on the stock ones. SYE, once again, depends. Sometimes you can get away with changing out drive shafts.

Originally Posted by sycoglitch
Nice great start. Def get the lCA and eventually the SYe. Don't stress uppers use that money for armor. Like a ruffstuff diff cover or zJ tie rod
See above.

Originally Posted by jeeperscreepers92
U also will need a sye.
Definitely see above.
Old Nov 27, 2012 | 09:37 PM
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Thanks for all the help! I'll probably be back. I found lower control arms and if I have any more issues ill just come back and ask again
Old Nov 27, 2012 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CherokeeJon
Thanks for all the help! I'll probably be back. I found lower control arms and if I have any more issues ill just come back and ask again
No problem buddy. That's what we're here for... to help each other. Feel free to also shoot me a PM. But just remember one thing, everybody's setup is different.
Old Nov 28, 2012 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ThatPurpleXJ
that's not worth it by any means.. hell you can get a brand new engine with new internals for $2500-3000 on quadratec. I'm not sure about rebuilds though sorry. Even if you bought a new engine and had a shop install it, it would be much cheaper then a rebuild they're quoting you for
ok - another guy called me back and said $2600. that includes boring out the block, new pistons, new water pump, tearing the engine completly down and replacing all seals and hoses. basicly just reusing my crank and intake manifold and top end. but i keep getting told by people to run it till it fails cuz it has good even compresion and not to worry about the leak, my gut feeling is that the haed gasket will blow out on me whrn i off in the woods 4hrs from home with no cell phone service so i think first of the year i will rebuild it.
Old Nov 28, 2012 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jeeperscreepers92

Where's newkindofclown when ya need him? Does he still have his MJ? Tho I say ur advice and knowledge is pretty solid and damn useful too kudos to u dukie


I appreciate the faith in my answers, but I can't ignore this one. Dukie knows 10,000x more about Jeeps, automotive, and engineering than me. When I got on CF and didn't know anything, I looked to him for answers (as well as some other members). He's taught me a lot.
I try not to answer questions unless I'm sure of my answer. If I'm not sure, I'm not afraid to admit that, because I don't want people to be misinformed.

With all that said, I think I've corrected Dukie about Jeeps twice, and they were both Comanche-specific questions.

As for me, the Army has me working 250 hours/mo in an office where CF is blocked and I can't have my phone.
Old Nov 28, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by blue dog

ok - another guy called me back and said $2600. that includes boring out the block, new pistons, new water pump, tearing the engine completly down and replacing all seals and hoses. basicly just reusing my crank and intake manifold and top end. but i keep getting told by people to run it till it fails cuz it has good even compresion and not to worry about the leak, my gut feeling is that the haed gasket will blow out on me whrn i off in the woods 4hrs from home with no cell phone service so i think first of the year i will rebuild it.
If you choose to go through all that, might as well do a 4.6/4.7L stroker. You can use some parts from a 258 CJ I6.
Old Nov 28, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
If you choose to go through all that, might as well do a 4.6/4.7L stroker. You can use some parts from a 258 CJ I6.
X2 either that or a new engine. I can't imagine you're doing the work yourself are you?
Old Nov 28, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by blue dog
ok - another guy called me back and said $2600. that includes boring out the block, new pistons, new water pump, tearing the engine completly down and replacing all seals and hoses. basicly just reusing my crank and intake manifold and top end. but i keep getting told by people to run it till it fails cuz it has good even compresion and not to worry about the leak, my gut feeling is that the haed gasket will blow out on me whrn i off in the woods 4hrs from home with no cell phone service so i think first of the year i will rebuild it.
I dont see $2600 in a simple rebuild.. You need to get another estimate from somewhere else, it shouldnt be that much. Now did he say boring the block or honing the block? If your doing a complete rebuild you might as well be replacing some parts in the top end as well. If you just have a leak, get the head shaved and replaced the head gasket.. No need to fix something that already works.
Hell for that money there's a brand new 4.0 thats been sitting on craigslist for a while for $750 bucks. Would be worth the money to just drive and get it.
Old Nov 28, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown



I appreciate the faith in my answers, but I can't ignore this one. Dukie knows 10,000x more about Jeeps, automotive, and engineering than me. When I got on CF and didn't know anything, I looked to him for answers (as well as some other members). He's taught me a lot.
I try not to answer questions unless I'm sure of my answer. If I'm not sure, I'm not afraid to admit that, because I don't want people to be misinformed.

With all that said, I think I've corrected Dukie about Jeeps twice, and they were both Comanche-specific questions.

As for me, the Army has me working 250 hours/mo in an office where CF is blocked and I can't have my phone.
I remember when you were a young lad... Lol so was I
Old Nov 28, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by blue dog
ok - another guy called me back and said $2600. that includes boring out the block, new pistons, new water pump, tearing the engine completly down and replacing all seals and hoses. basicly just reusing my crank and intake manifold and top end. but i keep getting told by people to run it till it fails cuz it has good even compresion and not to worry about the leak, my gut feeling is that the haed gasket will blow out on me whrn i off in the woods 4hrs from home with no cell phone service so i think first of the year i will rebuild it.
Dude... Napa has the damn things with a warranty for $1700. I have a rebuilt motor in my Jeep, the guy I bought the motor from had a shop rebuild it. It smokes out of the valve cover and has an intermittent rocker arm squeak... For GOD'S SAKE, BUY THE FACTORY CRATE MOTOR.
Old Nov 28, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Alright detectives... happens below thirty and increases with speed even at a crawl on the front axle. Any takers.

Old Nov 28, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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Sounds like a bearing of some sort. My buddies f150 made that exact same noise in the same way except from the rear and only from reverse.. Cant remember what it was, I'll ask him next time i see him and see what he did to his.

But if i was you i would check your U joints, both axle and driveshaft.. If thats not it its gotta be a bearing.

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