Modified XJ Cherokee Tech XJ (84-01)
All modified tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:
Old Sep 21, 2015, 02:17 PM
How-Tos on this Topic
Last edit by: IB Advertising
See related guides and technical advice from our community experts:

Browse all: Wheels and Tires
Print Wikipost

All Lift & Tire questions go here!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 02:01 PM
  #12826  
NewKindOfClown's Avatar
Moderator of Jeeps
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 21,029
Likes: 3
From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

As for the rest, think practically. What kind of wheeling do you do? Do have need the bumpers more, or do you need the lift? Do you need to run a 5.5" lift? For 33s, you don't, but maybe you need that ground clearance in your wheelbase.

My opinion is to do bumpers and sliders first to protect my investment. I can wheel easier trails without a lift and still be challenged. If I lift first, I'm gonna be worried about severe damage on those tougher trails.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 02:06 PM
  #12827  
bhennessee1's Avatar
CF Veteran
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,493
Likes: 0
From: Chickamauga Ga.
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by PocketsEmpty
Hello all,

I am new to Jeep land having just purchased a '98 Cherokee Sport. I'm *pretty* sure it's got the D30 up front and Chrysler 8.25 rear, auto trans, NP242 tcase. It's bone stock at the moment and this forum has been most EXCELLENT for learning. I'm looking to run 33's with Bushwacker flat flares eventually. I'm having trouble deciding which lift kit to go with--It seems to make sense to go with a longarm kit and SYE. I was considering the IRO 5.5 Critical Path kit, but now I'm seeing mixed things about them and not sure what to do. This Jeep is not my DD, but will see lots of roads for trips to the mountains and some decent rocky trails.

I guess my primary question is, where do I start?!! Should I accessorize first (flares, bumpers, etc), and then decide on a lift, or should I lift it first and then build from there?

I want to make sure that the flat flares look great with my lift and tire combo--can anyone recommend the best 33x12.50 + wheel backspacing that works well with the BW Flats?

Thanks so much.
I'd do what Tim (new kind of clown) did 4 in. bs, and 3.5 inch of lift, but id run 8 inch wide wheels if you want to run flat flares. If you go higher than about 4 inches of lift 33s will look small with bushwhackers.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 02:08 PM
  #12828  
NewKindOfClown's Avatar
Moderator of Jeeps
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 21,029
Likes: 3
From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Originally Posted by bhennessee1

I'd do what Tim (new kind of clown) did 4 in. bs, and 3.5 inch of lift, but id run 8 inch wide wheels if you want to run flat flares. If you go higher than about 4 inches of lift 33s will look small with bushwhackers.
X2 on the 8" wheels. When the Comanche gets new shoes...
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 02:28 PM
  #12829  
PocketsEmpty's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,169
Likes: 6
From: York, PA
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Thanks for the replies fellas. I'd definitely stick with the 8" wheels. I think those w/ the 33's would look good with the flats, trying to visualize the flats on Mr. Clown's rig. I have to have flares for inspection...good ol' PA, but I love the looks of the flatties. Going flareless just doesn't look clean-cut enough for me anyhow

As for clearance, I definitely need good clearance for some decently rocky trails. I'm afraid with a 4.5" kit that the 33's will be stuffed on the trails, but seems to be a really common setup with the XJs. I will keep hunting and summon my Jeep friends for their input as well.

I think I'm going to start with the bumpers first thing and go from there. I also plan to herculine/rhinoline the entire interior and rockers. I guess I need to start a build thread
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 02:45 PM
  #12830  
BNJeepsta's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,164
Likes: 1
From: Warren, Pa
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by McCaffrey
On that note, I haven't had any issue on 33's with my Dana-35. While it's not a locker it does have a factory posi and from looking at the videos in slow motion it seems to lock-up pretty well. But I've watched enough videos of broken turdy-35s to see where damage usually happens and avoid it. Uphill + starts bouncing + keep right foot planted = broken something.

Anyway, once my buddy gets his D44 installed I'm getting his built C8.25. Same gear ratio so easy peasy lemon squeezey.
I have the same thing, but I am real easy on the gas when it starts bouncing. I know its gonna break, but it still works so I'm not changing it for an 8.8 yet lol
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 02:55 PM
  #12831  
NewKindOfClown's Avatar
Moderator of Jeeps
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 21,029
Likes: 3
From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Originally Posted by PocketsEmpty
Thanks for the replies fellas. I'd definitely stick with the 8" wheels. I think those w/ the 33's would look good with the flats, trying to visualize the flats on Mr. Clown's rig. I have to have flares for inspection...good ol' PA, but I love the looks of the flatties. Going flareless just doesn't look clean-cut enough for me anyhow

As for clearance, I definitely need good clearance for some decently rocky trails. I'm afraid with a 4.5" kit that the 33's will be stuffed on the trails, but seems to be a really common setup with the XJs. I will keep hunting and summon my Jeep friends for their input as well.

I think I'm going to start with the bumpers first thing and go from there. I also plan to herculine/rhinoline the entire interior and rockers. I guess I need to start a build thread
Sounds like you've done some research and you're also open to ideas. I think you'll do well here

33s are totally doable on a 4.5" flattie build. It'll give some up travel without raising your Center of Gravity too much. I actually rolled the Cherokee in those pics (deer), and I'm planning to put 35s under my Comanche without lifting it.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 03:35 PM
  #12832  
PocketsEmpty's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,169
Likes: 6
From: York, PA
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Sounds like you've done some research and you're also open to ideas. I think you'll do well here
Oh, I've been on this forum for HOURS before I even registered, or before I even bought my XJ. Spending too much time on here during work

I wanted to know what exactly I was getting into and how deep into the rabbit hole I want to go. Definitely open to ideas and have tons of them flowing right now. I'm pretty sure I wanna go with the flatties anyhow. For now though I need to fix the rust and corroded freeze plugs (ugh) and other maintenance items before modding. Also got a slightly leaky radiator that probably is gonna be replaced in the near future.

33s are totally doable on a 4.5" flattie build. It'll give some up travel without raising your Center of Gravity too much. I actually rolled the Cherokee in those pics (deer), and I'm planning to put 35s under my Comanche without lifting it.
Sorry to hear about the roll! But you're still here on the internet to post about it, so that's all that matters! Before I got my Ranger (traded for the XJ), I hunted for that perfect Comanche for two years. Couldn't find a one that isn't rusted to hell in Central PA. But around here there is a strong XJ following.

Anywho, back on topic, would you agree that long arms would be preferred to short arms w/ drop brackets? I read that they tend to get caught on rocks more compared to long arms. I guess it really depends on how hard you're wheeling, right? I'm not sure my use will completely justify the extra cost with long arms. I just want it to be done as proper as possible.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 03:58 PM
  #12833  
NewKindOfClown's Avatar
Moderator of Jeeps
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 21,029
Likes: 3
From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Long arms are definitely preferred. I'm in Frederick, MD now (from Cleveland, OH), and I drove over three hours to Philly to get my Comanche. I was looking north to NYC, south to Charleston, and west to Ohio for 6 weeks before I picked this up for $600.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 03:59 PM
  #12834  
NewKindOfClown's Avatar
Moderator of Jeeps
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 21,029
Likes: 3
From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

One full roll, and back onto the roof where it stopped. That was back in February.
All Lift & Tire questions go here!!!-forumrunner_20130102_165905.jpg
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 04:01 PM
  #12835  
bhennessee1's Avatar
CF Veteran
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,493
Likes: 0
From: Chickamauga Ga.
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by PocketsEmpty
Thanks for the replies fellas. I'd definitely stick with the 8" wheels. I think those w/ the 33's would look good with the flats, trying to visualize the flats on Mr. Clown's rig. I have to have flares for inspection...good ol' PA, but I love the looks of the flatties. Going flareless just doesn't look clean-cut enough for me anyhow

As for clearance, I definitely need good clearance for some decently rocky trails. I'm afraid with a 4.5" kit that the 33's will be stuffed on the trails, but seems to be a really common setup with the XJs. I will keep hunting and summon my Jeep friends for their input as well.

I think I'm going to start with the bumpers first thing and go from there. I also plan to herculine/rhinoline the entire interior and rockers. I guess I need to start a build thread
3.5 33s 3.75 inch backspacing and flats
Attached Thumbnails All Lift & Tire questions go here!!!-image-3459653491.jpg  
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 04:32 PM
  #12836  
a_shirey's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 8,272
Likes: 1
From: Baltimore, MD
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6 HO
Default

Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

Your last question will be all opinion. I liked the stance of my 3.5" lift, 33x12.5 tires on 15x10 wheels with 4" BS, no flares:
I like it too. Gonna do it this summer.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 04:52 PM
  #12837  
McCaffrey's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,250
Likes: 3
From: California
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

What are "flats"?
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 04:59 PM
  #12838  
xj_maniac_newb's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,322
Likes: 6
From: Summerville, Ga
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5 4 cyl.
Default

Bushwacker flat fender flares.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 05:14 PM
  #12839  
NewKindOfClown's Avatar
Moderator of Jeeps
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 21,029
Likes: 3
From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Originally Posted by xj_maniac_newb
Bushwacker flat fender flares.
Or garden edging if you're cheap. Usually doesn't look very good, but some people don't mind. I do love the flats, though.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2013 | 05:58 PM
  #12840  
BNJeepsta's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,164
Likes: 1
From: Warren, Pa
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by PocketsEmpty
Thanks for the replies fellas. I'd definitely stick with the 8" wheels. I think those w/ the 33's would look good with the flats, trying to visualize the flats on Mr. Clown's rig. I have to have flares for inspection...good ol' PA, but I love the looks of the flatties. Going flareless just doesn't look clean-cut enough for me anyhow

As for clearance, I definitely need good clearance for some decently rocky trails. I'm afraid with a 4.5" kit that the 33's will be stuffed on the trails, but seems to be a really common setup with the XJs. I will keep hunting and summon my Jeep friends for their input as well.

I think I'm going to start with the bumpers first thing and go from there. I also plan to herculine/rhinoline the entire interior and rockers. I guess I need to start a build thread
Where at in Pa are ya?
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:36 AM.