Well come on down! On one side of the state, we have mountains, and on the other is the beach!

 

Yes please.

 

I just looked into it, and Maine is the same way. Doors dont matter as long as you have your mirrors. Did you find out for sure if it illegal where you are, or are you going by internet "theories"?

 

With the whole door thing, maybe he just wanted and excuse to look at your rig

The one thing I want to touch on is the argument about discretion. Gee Oh Dee, I'm gonna use you as an example here (not in a bad way). Depending in the state and laws, Officers DO have discretion to some extent. Say me and Gee both have .4 oz of marijuana in the car. Gee has a big attitude and gets violent blah blah blah. Most likely he'll get arrested and get more charges. I on the other hand are very polite and own up to my possession. Depending on the officer, I may not get arrested, and just get a summons to court or a citation. Heck, I've had friends just get their grass taken away. In the end, it is up to the officer (discretion) to interpret the law just as it is the Supreme Court to interpret our US constitution. One other example; I'm doing 10 mph over the speed limit following Gee who is also doing 10 over. If I'm all belligerent, chances are I'll get a citation. Gee in the other hand is polite, yes sir no sir, and owns up, he nay just get a warning.

In short, the officer has the right to interpret the law, has the discretion to enforce the law, and even choose the "punishment" (do nothing, warning, citation, arrest).

Most laws and the constitution were PURPOSELY written this way as a fail safe.

Sorry if I bore some of you but it bothers me when people say THE LAW IS THE LAW, when it is but it isn't.

 

What safety equipment? Doors? I don't want to open a can of worms here but ...

 

Oh, no, by all means. I'm no way disagreeing with you. I've just gotta be able.to come up with ANYTHING and EVERYTHING an officer can and (we both know) probably will try and pull so I have a solution.

 

I mean, I ride a doorless motorcycle....

 

Shame on you, you lawless daredevil!!

 

I know! I'm such a FOOL!!

I also go without a helmet when I'm on my cruiser.

Sport bike, though, and I wear one.

 

You're retarded, yeah I'm an abrasive jerk and I realize that but you have no clue what you're saying.

You're saying they have discretion to interpret the law. They do not. The law is 55mph. According to your genius that means if I were a police officer I can interpret that as 45mph. Guess what? Here's your fat speeding ticket for going 54 in a 55. See the blatant disregard for logic in your idea? Now lets look at your wonderful examples...

You give examples of officers being discretionary about the punishment, which they can be. But punishment is not the law, the punishment does not dictate the law, and the officer made no discretionary decisions in regard to the law.

Let me put your examples in laymans terms.

If you're polite and agreeable the cop can choose to give you the minimum punishment for your offense. If you're a rude snot (like i've been to you), the the cop can choose to give you the maximum punishment and then slap a bunch of other stupid charges on you that go away as soon as you contest them because contrary to your beliefs, he does not have any say it what is and isn't legal. He just enforces the laws that someone else wrote.

Sorry if I bore you but it pisses me off when people spew bull**** like you just did. We live in a country where the average IQ is dropping and you're not helping the situation any.

 

i have been pulled over, count them, 12 times. 8 times i was doorless. no tickets. i even asked the officer if anything was wrong with no doors and he said as long as your seat belt is on your good but that windshield on the other hand is gonna have to be replaced... ya i know i have only hit my a pillers 4 times sending cracks across it each time. laughed and went on his way love small towns

 

Hey boy, why don't you read everything I just said... Re-read the examples you dipshi*. When in any of my posts did I say he can give you a ticket for 54 in a 55. In the Florida state statutes ( sorry if that's too big of a word for you, that means laws) the punishments are clearly written out and the officer INTERPRETS those statutes. Here's a better example for you incase that thing between your ears does not understand. Florida state statutes say for a pocketknife,"no tactical blade can be carried along with dirks, brass knuckles.... Etc". It spent define what a tactical blade is... So once again, it is up to the LEO to use his or her mind to INTERPRET what a tactical blade is. Once again, re read my examples as they are clear examples as to when a law must be interpreted.

Oh, and of your gonna try and go all H.A.M. On someone ad quote them... Try not to quote them when their point is clearly made. When I said,"... A law is a law! But it is and isn't..." that means, in some situations interpretation and discretion do apply. Do you think our legislature would make everything set in stone? Did you ever take a government class of any sort?

I really hope your not in a leadership position, cause clearly, everything written on paper is set and stone and no interpretation can apply...

Oh and by the way, make no mistake; you ARE an abrasive as*hole. It's a GD forum and there is no need to act like a BA through a keyboard.

 

I don't care what kind of person you are. Watch the language.

 

Enough. Both of you.

I dont care if you have issues with each other, just take it to PMs and don't ruin my thread.

You won't like me when I'm angry.

 

Oh and to further my point, if the speed limit is 55, the LEO may make the decision to only pull people I've doing 61+. Your going 60, you don't get pulled over, but the guy in the YJ going 62 gets pulled over. If the LAW IS THE LAW, shouldn't everyone doing 56+ get pulled over?

I'm done playing this game with you. Your nettles to your own opinion. I made the mistake of going off topic so an ugly vulture like you can pounce on a person just cause YOU don't like their opinion.