DUH!

Just reread this post.
If you were talking software instead of KLs
Windows 7 IS Windows Vista's Service Pack 1.
Same crap...different package..."and look at all the new features" (to help you forget the smell that permeates the air)

 

Ah, that's not fair: Vista actually did have an SP1, which made is suck slightly less. However, Microsoft operating systems follow the "every other" rule:

95: Great, compared to 3.11 lol
98: Junk
98 SE: Great (second Win 98)
Me: Junk
XP: Great (second NT 5)
Vista: Junk
7: Fantastic (second NT 6)
8: Junk

The only exception to this would be if the next version is "Cloud" or some nonsense.

 

Holy Poop Batman!

The Joker just escaped from the Elizabeth Arkham Asylum for the Criminally Insane and he took Poison Ivy, The Riddler, Two-Face, Bane, Killer Croc, and Harley Quinn with him and they've taken over a car company!!!

That's terrible Robin, to the Batmobile!

Uh, Batman, it's not a Chrysler is it?

Jake,
You may have just accomplished what all these other well meaning responders have failed to do so far.
Prove to me that the New Chrysler management may not only swim in the shallow end of the Darwinistic pool, they don't even know what continent it's located on.

Please excuse me while I express myself in a way this family oriented forum will allow...

of all the s$^headed, mother breeding, dumb@^%!, scum*ucking male bovine excrement crap to pull.

Thank you, I feel better now. Half a handful of Xanax does wonders. :<)

Here in the back of my apparently innocent, clueless mind I applauded a corporate structure that apparently had the cojones to face mounting criticism from the press and public to withhold a much anticipated product until they got it right. Wipe the egg off, smile and say, "it's ready when we say it's ready and not one second earlier."

Now they pull this BS the try to generate "Buzz!!"

I still believe in Santa, but I'm beginning to have my doubts about the Easter Bunny & Tooth Fairy!!!

I'll be the first of admit I'm something of a Luddite.
Really, not talking down of any one but here is a link so you know exactly what I'm talking about.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite In short modern usage means "just because you can do something doesn't mean you have to do it or it's a better way of doing things."
If you still use a hand powered toothbrush or shave with soap and water, you may be a closet Luddite.

A contest, a Twitter push, and Facebook crap will NOT increase the value or reliability of your car!
STUPID!

I know I'm old and ugly but 30k was a pretty nice house back in the day and NO 144 character blurb from anyone was going to convince to run out an buy it. I guarantee
nobody named Zuckerberg would have convinced me to buy anything more than Pop Rocks, no matter how many "shills" he had working for free for him!
Maybe Eugene the Jeep of Popeye comic book!
Wow, x-ray specks, Fairy Shrimp, neat!!!!

Anyone in favor of a million owner march on Toledo, Ohio for a couple of weeks of butt kicking?

Thanks for a eye opener Jake.

 

Give the man a cigar!!!

But I'll show a little age and go back even further.
MSDOS 7xx solid
Window 3.0 - junk
Window 3.11- Much better but Apple kicking their butt with UI.
Windows 95-- not bad but the bad guys had too much fun with it.
Windows 98 - stinky trash
Window 98SE - much better
ME - I won't start!
Window 2000 - Based on NT and still solid.
Windows XP after SP3 - best product they've made.
Windows Vista/SP1 - really, who could tell it was better?
Windows 7 after a lot of tweaking with updates- damn good but pretty poop on backward compatibly.
Windows 8 - I'd cry, but real men don't.
Windows 8.1 - everything to everyone as best I can tell, grade D-

In all fairness, I don't own or plan to on Windows 8 or 8.1, all I know is what other Windows boosters tell me.

Never buy even number windows products, you've been warned!

Maybe a last nail in the Windows coffin...
Mac Maverick OS X 10.9 upgrade cost $0.00
Windows 8.1 upgrade cost $199.00
Somebody is using crayons on the wall!

 

I think the designer was a big Space Ghost fan as a kid.

 

Would have to take a Texan to bring that up, young, but a Texan.

If I do it, it will look exactly like that minus that hideous $150 cow flop of a black crap in the center of the hood.

Now if someone would design a Firebird style "Flaming Chicken" using a Hawk instead of a quasi-**** phoenix as a subject, I might go for it.

;>)

 

"new and improved" is generally neither.

 

I LOVE the new Cherokee. If I wasn't throwing all my money into my business (and new medical plan) I would get one. Build it, and set it right next to an XJ I would also own (I sold mine, currently XJ-less).

See, to me the whole point of this is that FINALLY Jeep is moving into the future. The rest of the retro crap is going away (also thankful the 2015 Mustang is loosing the retro theme). We are into the second decade of the new millenia and we really need to stop living in the past. Sure, there is a ton of technology in this new Cherokee, but folks need to stop being so damn scared of it. There are lots of ways to mod the computer along with the car. There are thousands of Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Subaru, Mitsubishi, etc., etc., owners that do this all the time. There is plenty of ways to mod this to make it hugely capable. I mean....seriously....all the fabricators and welders and DIYers that build all kinds of Jeeps are scared to modify this new KL Cherokee. Sounds like a bunch of pansies to me. Sure...maybe the Jeep community may have to actually help each other a little more and share what they learn.

I say take on the challenge. I Guarantee that if I had one it would be on COTM on THIS SITE within six months. But alas I can't prove that because I can't buy one (at least right now).

Bottomeline: EMBRACE THE FUTURE.

 

 

You're welcome, the idea that Jeep has to show off a failure with such stupidity that along with it's looks, makes its personality a double whammy!
No no no no,

I have to agree to disagree.

This is completely different from the Mustang. The Mustang (with the exception of the foxbodies) looks like a Mustang (not exactly retro but you can relate it to the Mustang). That crowd is used to the unusual and some will dare say has grown better with age. However, this KL has absolutely no rendition to what Jeep has stood for the past 70+ years of existence. I would highly doubt a COTM win for the simple fact this thing leaves a bad taste in the mouths of the hardcore Jeep crowd.

Embrace the future? Not with the ****ty quality that Fiat and Chrysler have individually, but now that is combined? Oh Dear.

It used to be washers, dryers, freezers, and cars were built to last. Now everything is such ****ty quality and breaks so quickly that I don't see this vehicle lasting as long as the XJ, SJ, MJ, or *******.

Recalculating
Recalculating
Recalculating
To the soccer field er back to the dealer

 

You must be new here. Nothing other than XJs and MJs win that. I don't recall seeing any Grand Cherokees, and certainly not any KJs or KKs.

 

salad, you're up early. I figured you still be "dressing". LOL.

 

Yeah got some meeting to be at in 45 minutes. I'm on the phone app lol

 

There's been some ZJs. Stormitecture, it's people like you that today's modern automobiles are butt-ugly and stupid, and don't appeal to guys like us who take pride in their vehicles and their ability to work on them. A big screw-you to you and people like you who've ruined the future of automobiles. I'm convinced that every vehicle I will ever own has already been produced and aged a good 15 years.

 

**** it lets all ride horses and pee in holes we dug outside