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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfajita
. Oh and to the guy who said a patriot could outperform an XJ off road, please tell me you are joking. One of those things would be stuck or hung up on a boulder 50 feet into any trail around here, because IFS/IRS has no articulation.
Articulation isn't everything. Technology can make up for the lack of flex in a big way..... I'm guessing you have never wheeled with a patriot before.
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lt. Dan

Articulation isn't everything. Technology can make up for the lack of flex in a big way..... I'm guessing you have never wheeled with a patriot before.
No, and I promise you I never will. I absolutely guarantee to you that ANY patriot cannot go where I've seen stock XJs go. At the very least they would have some serious electrical issues from water. Also, its a goddamn dodge caliber platform.
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lt. Dan
Articulation isn't everything. Technology can make up for the lack of flex in a big way..... I'm guessing you have never wheeled with a patriot before.
Articulation is like so overrated.


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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bighouts5591

No, and I promise you I never will. I absolutely guarantee to you that ANY patriot cannot go where I've seen stock XJs go. At the very least they would have some serious electrical issues from water. Also, its a goddamn dodge caliber platform.
Haha, electrical issues? I have those in my bone dry Cherokee if I went in water who the hell knows what will happen
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfajita
because IFS/IRS has no articulation.
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everything depends






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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 04:42 AM
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I saw an Acura RDX today and was shocked...looked like an overgrown Mini Cooper..All I could think was "why???"

Keep in mind also mileage requirements are across the board for all the models together so if you want to come out with something that doesn't sip gas anymore--like the new 225hp festiva...you need to cut back someplace else.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 06:17 AM
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Jeep should offer a model of the patriot with solid axles

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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 07:54 AM
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Even IF a Patriot could out-perform the XJ off road... it will never be as reliable. I guarantee if that anyone here had a Patriot and treated it how they treat their XJ's, it die an early death.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bighouts5591
No, and I promise you I never will. I absolutely guarantee to you that ANY patriot cannot go where I've seen stock XJs go. At the very least they would have some serious electrical issues from water. Also, its a goddamn dodge caliber platform.
You sound like my two year old boy... "I don't know anything about it, so I'm going to automatically assume that I don't like it!"

You have zero experience wheeling a patriot, and yet you have already made up your mind.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:06 AM
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Kill it with fire!
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by basegrinder
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everything depends





Suspension travel is not the same thing as articulation. IFS/IRS has its place off road, such as high speed applications in the desert or dunes. But for rock crawling, not to mention everyday strength and reliability, solid axles win. Ever hear a CV when the boot tears and it packs with mud? Happened to my brothers Blazer.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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If you combined a Patriot and a Cherokee... would it be called a Parokeet?
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 77olds
If you combined a Patriot and a Cherokee... would it be called a Parokeet?
Chariot
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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The Jeep Grand Cherokee is and always has been the replacement of the Cherokee. That's a fact! Back in 1992 our venerable Cherokee WAS REPLACED. It was only left around by popular demand, Hence minimal to no changes or upgrades were made. Deal with it ladies!
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by xj 4-play
The Jeep Grand Cherokee is and always has been the replacement of the Cherokee. That's a fact! Back in 1992 our venerable Cherokee WAS REPLACED. It was only left around by popular demand, Hence minimal to no changes or upgrades were made. Deal with it ladies!
Ain't that the truth !
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