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From: Colorado
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0 (Renix)
Well yea that makes sense but that doesn't mean they are good enough I live in Denver and it's a pretty common occurrence for xjs to get hot in traffic the mechanical fan just doesn't move enough air I have a brand new fan clutch that does the job but it could be much better with electric fans that adjust fan speed on their own
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From: Laurium, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
I didn't know that would affect the steering that badly. That's definitely a definitive answer I've been looking for. It's affecting my steering by putting a greater strain on my hubs, tie rod, and ball joints. It's also affecting the way it handles on the road, and it's not fun.
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
Well yea that makes sense but that doesn't mean they are good enough I live in Denver and it's a pretty common occurrence for xjs to get hot in traffic the mechanical fan just doesn't move enough air I have a brand new fan clutch that does the job but it could be much better with electric fans that adjust fan speed on their own
Herp Derp Jerp

Joined: Nov 2011
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
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From: Laurium, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
So replaced the map sensor and still getting the jerking and towards the end of my test drive I got the P0107 map circuit low code again...? Can the IAC or TPS trick the computer into thinking the MAP is bad? It seems to studder fairly regularly at idle in neutral and when you pop it into drive it goes rock solid with the idle. It also died on me once when I shifted it to park. The PSI never went below 4.2 this time. With the old sensor it would drop to 1.2PSI randomly. I'm getting about ready to submit and bring it to the dealer. Any more ideas or should I try replacing the TPS and/or IAC too?
so my 2001 wj dies when I'm driving and idling... ik this has been answered but I had a detail question.. so I cleaned the throttle very very well it looks new now and cleaned the maf and the iac sensors with maf cleaner but cleaned the sensors with maf cleaner.. would it be better to clean the idle sensor with throttle cleaner or does it matter.. it looks less gunky kind of bronzy and the tips silver. thanks for the reply
this is the site I was looking at http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/2...idling-859664/
this is the site I was looking at http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/2...idling-859664/
so my 2001 wj dies when I'm driving and idling... ik this has been answered but I had a detail question.. so I cleaned the throttle very very well it looks new now and cleaned the maf and the iac sensors with maf cleaner but cleaned the sensors with maf cleaner.. would it be better to clean the idle sensor with throttle cleaner or does it matter.. it looks less gunky kind of bronzy and the tips silver. thanks for the reply this is the site I was looking at http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/2...idling-859664/
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From: Fauquier County, Virginia
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I-6 4.0 HO
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From: Laurium, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Sorry, you might have put me on a question rationing plan... but so far you guys have been a great wealth of info and I'm learning a lot. Just recently I've started getting a short, quick jerking while driving. It occurs most noticeably between 40-60mph under light acceleration. As soon as I let off or apply more than what it takes to simply maintain speed the jerking/hesitating stops. It's not constant and it fluctuates in intensity. I've tried downshifting to 3rd and the same phenomenon. The RPMS seem to stay steady and it only happens when the torque converter locks. Moderate to heavy acceleration no problems and the shifting between gears feels just as solid as before. If my fluid is a bit over max on the dipstick could that cause it? I've been reading maybe TPS or ignition. I haven't gotten around to a full ignition tune up but spark plugs are new as of a month or so ago. Leaving for work trips starting next Tuesday so I won't have time to order and receive parts and do that until I get back on one of my breaks. Thanks in advance!
Edit: '99 216kmi keep forgetting.
Edit: '99 216kmi keep forgetting.
Throttle position sensor.
Ever had a stereo with a sketchy volume ****? How in that sweet spot you always turn it up to, it's really crackly and you've gotta mess with it to get it to stop, or just turn it up more?
The TPS is identical to a volume ****. But instead of attenuating a sound into an amplifier, the PCM reads it as throttle position.
You can test this with an analog multimeter. Hook it up an start working the throttle. You should see the needle increasing (or decreasing, depending on which pins you connect), and then it will suddenly spaz out at a certain spot. Same thing will show up with an OBD-II scanner, but be throttle percent instead of a voltage or resistance.
Ever had a stereo with a sketchy volume ****? How in that sweet spot you always turn it up to, it's really crackly and you've gotta mess with it to get it to stop, or just turn it up more?
The TPS is identical to a volume ****. But instead of attenuating a sound into an amplifier, the PCM reads it as throttle position.
You can test this with an analog multimeter. Hook it up an start working the throttle. You should see the needle increasing (or decreasing, depending on which pins you connect), and then it will suddenly spaz out at a certain spot. Same thing will show up with an OBD-II scanner, but be throttle percent instead of a voltage or resistance.
I went real slow with my expensive digital meter and didn't see any jumps. I'll pullout my crappy analog one and see if it does it. But new turn of events I'm now getting a MAP sensor code and it now dies occasionally while idling, but seems to idle better in gear. Would both TPS and MAP go out near the same time? Getting down to 1.2 PSI idling not in gear and generally 4-6 psi idling in gear. Also it drops to 1.2 PSI sometimes when it does the jerking at cruising speeds. I think the CAN bus just isn't fast enough. My 2013 Jeep is light-years faster than this one at updating sensor readings.
Edit: 2 MAP codes actually P0107 and P1296
Edit 2: Yup, checked TPS with analog meter up and down a few times nice and smooth.
Edit: 2 MAP codes actually P0107 and P1296
Edit 2: Yup, checked TPS with analog meter up and down a few times nice and smooth.
So replaced the map sensor and still getting the jerking and towards the end of my test drive I got the P0107 map circuit low code again...? Can the IAC or TPS trick the computer into thinking the MAP is bad? It seems to studder fairly regularly at idle in neutral and when you pop it into drive it goes rock solid with the idle. It also died on me once when I shifted it to park. The PSI never went below 4.2 this time. With the old sensor it would drop to 1.2PSI randomly. I'm getting about ready to submit and bring it to the dealer. Any more ideas or should I try replacing the TPS and/or IAC too?

Replaced TPS this morning no change. What on earth could this be!?
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Joined: Nov 2011
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
this is the site I was looking at http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/2...59664:boxing:/
so my 1999 xj dies when I'm driving and idling... ik this has been answered but I had a detail question.. so I cleaned the throttle very very well it looks new now and cleaned the maf and the iac sensors with maf cleaner but cleaned the sensors with maf cleaner.. would it be better to clean the idle sensor with throttle cleaner or does it matter.. it looks less gunky kind of bronzy and the tips silver. thanks for the reply this is the site I was looking at http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/2...idling-859664
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/Does it die while idling or just when you are driving? I would suspect the TPS but verify that it is not working with a multimeter first before buying new parts, unless you have a spare one already.




