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From: some small town oregon
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
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From: North Carolina
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I took it to a buddy's shop, pulled a vaccum for 30 min, and filled it up. The shop owner, my buddy, was in a hurry to get it out of the shop, so we didn't do a leak check, also, since we converted from r12 to r134, he used a chart to convert the amount for r12 to r134, but he thought it sounded like it was too much, better to under fill than overfill, he put a little less than it called for. When I got home, I felt the AC wasn't too cold or I had some kind of leak, so I got one of the AC freon cans from autozone, that's when I think I overfilled it. The Guage I used was broken. And that's when it sprayed out. And yes,it was a used compressor. But everything ran fine. I put more freon in it, and AC was ice cold, just how it should be, but the Gauge on the can said it was still a little low. So I kept filling, then that's when it sprayed out. Also, I drove around for like a week or two before I put more freon in it. So etheir the guage I used was broken or there was air in the system. Also, I got the system evacuated today after this little incidence, and went home and rented vacuum pump and Guage set from autozone, I'm going to pull a vaccum, check for leaks, and refill everything the proper way tomorrow.
Last edited by 93XJeeper; Jun 16, 2016 at 08:46 PM.
CF Veteran
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 15,581
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From: some small town oregon
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I took it to a buddy's shop, pulled a vaccum for 30 min, and filled it up. The shop owner, my buddy, was in a hurry to get it out of the shop, so we didn't do a leak check, also, since we converted from r12 to r134, he used a chart to convert the amount for r12 to r134, but he thought it sounded like it was too much, better to under fill than overfill, he put a little less than it called for. When I got home, I felt the AC wasn't too cold or I had some kind of leak, so I got one of the AC freon cans from autozone, that's when I think I overfilled it. The Guage I used was broken. And that's when it sprayed out. And yes,it was a used compressor. But everything ran fine. I put more freon in it, and AC was ice cold, just how it should be, but the Gauge on the can said it was still a little low. So I kept filling, then that's when it sprayed out. Also, I drove around for like a week or two before I put more freon in it. So etheir the guage I used was broken or there was air in the system. Also, I got the system evacuated today after this little incidence, and went home and rented vacuum pump and Guage set from autozone, I'm going to pull a vaccum, check for leaks, and refill everything the proper way tomorrow.
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From: North Carolina
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Ok so you converted a r12 system. Did you drain all the oil out and replace it with pag? The mineral oil in a r12 system will not mix. Also did you swap the expansion block? That's the brass or aluminum block at the firewall. I'm guessing you didn't. Want you're hearing is gurgling-****ed up coming from the expansion block.
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Joined: Nov 2010
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From: some small town oregon
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
i did drain and fill with the correct oil but I did not swap the expansion block. Should I go ahead and do that while I have the system evacuated? I figured that it was make that nose since I had overfilled it. Also, I ran AC flush through the expansion block and evaporator until it was clear when I initially installed the AC components weeks ago, then blew it out with air compressor and put a vacuum on it to remove any excess AC flush.
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From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Anybody know what's making this noise? I was putting some r134 into the system cause it was low on freon (really low) then it started making this noise. I thought maybe it was the blower motor put I replaced it about a week ago. The AC lines vibrate while making this noise but the blower motor doesn't. Any ideas? Sounds like it's coming com inside the fire wall or that little metal block that the AC lines pass through.
AC makes noise - YouTube
Watch the whole video. The sounds stops as soon as I flip AC off.
AC makes noise - YouTube
Watch the whole video. The sounds stops as soon as I flip AC off.
Alright, well, now I was adding some more freon (with UV Die) to the AC system in order find the leak, and then all of a sudden it just sprayed all the freon out of the side of the dryer. Im talking about the little spot where the lines connect. I'm guessing there was some kind of pressure release valve there? The Guage on the freon bottle said it wasn't even full yet. Was there air in the system? What happen? Lol
See my video here...
... and the top comment in the video's comment chain in which I found the answer
" http://www.youfixcars.com/air-conditioning-noises.html says "A buzzing noise from the compressor when the air-conditioning clutch is engaged is often a sign of an overcharged system. In this scenario the buzzing sound is caused by liquid refrigerant entering the compressor.
Of course, this condition is most common after an air-conditioning service when too much Freon has been added. If this is the case it needs to be corrected as soon as possible, because it can damage the compressor. Also note the AC will not cool properly when it's overcharged."
Last edited by Basslicks; Jun 16, 2016 at 11:20 PM.
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From: North Carolina
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
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Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Val d'Or is a hoot, stayed there on our way back from Radisson/James Bay. It's got that "mining/industrial town in the middle of nowhere" feel to it that you don't find in an older city on a major waterway. Also the street signs depict a giant snow blower eating a car. lol
Anyway, the actual ON TOPIC part!
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From: Quebec
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
what happens in val d'or, stays in val d'or!
but yeah it used to be a gold mining town i think, so the vibe is definitely there for a reason.
Anyway, the actual ON TOPIC part!
No no, totally different. These guys load up EVERYTHING with their undercoating. It's amazing the effect it has on a vehicle. It's a little drippy at first, but my Tercel's only rust was from paint chips. It can be done with any similar product, but by spraying this stuff in everywhere it does stop the rust at the seams. It's the only way to keep XJ rockers from rotting out since they're exposed to the environment on both sides, but they trap moisture on the inside. Looks like there's even one near-ish to you lol https://www.krown.com/canada/quebec/quebec/shannon/
ahh ok I get you, when I read rust check i thought about the spray paint brand. the place I use is this : http://www.antirouille.com/traitement-en.html I'm guessing it is a similar product. I get it treated every year at this place, but the rockers are too far gone for saving.
you talked about drippy but since a couple of years they have this new "formula" that is non-dripping and sticks rather well to anything it's applied to. I'm replacing my rockers with 2x6, do you think I should drill a hole and have them shoot inside there, or simply welding shut both ends of the tube would be enough to avoid rust?
and here's a little update on my rust situation. i decided to poke harder and remove some seam sealer to see how bad it is. i still have more digging to do, but in case it rains I don't want it all over the inside so I stopped.
but yeah it used to be a gold mining town i think, so the vibe is definitely there for a reason.
Anyway, the actual ON TOPIC part!
No no, totally different. These guys load up EVERYTHING with their undercoating. It's amazing the effect it has on a vehicle. It's a little drippy at first, but my Tercel's only rust was from paint chips. It can be done with any similar product, but by spraying this stuff in everywhere it does stop the rust at the seams. It's the only way to keep XJ rockers from rotting out since they're exposed to the environment on both sides, but they trap moisture on the inside. Looks like there's even one near-ish to you lol https://www.krown.com/canada/quebec/quebec/shannon/
ahh ok I get you, when I read rust check i thought about the spray paint brand. the place I use is this : http://www.antirouille.com/traitement-en.html I'm guessing it is a similar product. I get it treated every year at this place, but the rockers are too far gone for saving.
you talked about drippy but since a couple of years they have this new "formula" that is non-dripping and sticks rather well to anything it's applied to. I'm replacing my rockers with 2x6, do you think I should drill a hole and have them shoot inside there, or simply welding shut both ends of the tube would be enough to avoid rust?
and here's a little update on my rust situation. i decided to poke harder and remove some seam sealer to see how bad it is. i still have more digging to do, but in case it rains I don't want it all over the inside so I stopped.
Last edited by Cane; Jun 17, 2016 at 08:11 AM.
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From: North Carolina
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
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Getting the flush out of the evap core is a separate issue... Not trying to contradict OD because he's right, you do need to get that out of there, but I never did a flush with mine and I was getting the same noise. The noise is due to over-fill. Take it back to the A/C shop and have them pull some back out. See my video here... Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U2d5K_iEfs ... and the top comment in the video's comment chain in which I found the answer " http://www.youfixcars.com/air-conditioning-noises.html says "A buzzing noise from the compressor when the air-conditioning clutch is engaged is often a sign of an overcharged system. In this scenario the buzzing sound is caused by liquid refrigerant entering the compressor. Of course, this condition is most common after an air-conditioning service when too much Freon has been added. If this is the case it needs to be corrected as soon as possible, because it can damage the compressor. Also note the AC will not cool properly when it's overcharged."
Last edited by 93XJeeper; Jun 17, 2016 at 01:11 PM.
I am getting ready to change the ring and pinon Or have it changed by a shop, any way, has any one used an Elite ring and pinion set sold by RONS MACHINING SERVICE are they any good ?I can get front and rear set with install kit for 495 .00 seemed like a good deal looking for some feed back,Thank You !!
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Anyone here have a site they go to for overstock mopar parts? I need a power window regulator/track for the driver's side of a 2000 2door xj, part number 55155013AK. The lowest i've found so far is about $107, not sure if this is a decent price or if there's somewhere i can go for cheaper for the same part. any help or guidance would be great
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From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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thanks for the reply everybody. I ended up getting the system completely evacuated, and now I'm back at the house pulling a vaccum on the system, appears to be no leaks as well. That video and your advice helped greatly. I'm using ChrisFix's video on how to properly charge an AC system to do the rest.

Anyone here have a site they go to for overstock mopar parts? I need a power window regulator/track for the driver's side of a 2000 2door xj, part number 55155013AK. The lowest i've found so far is about $107, not sure if this is a decent price or if there's somewhere i can go for cheaper for the same part. any help or guidance would be great




