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Old Jun 16, 2016 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
when I look it up, it seems that a lot of AC compressors have a pressure release valve, I'm guessing mine has on on the side of the high pressure line by the dryer.
Didn't you put in a used compressor? How did you charge the system?
Old Jun 16, 2016 | 08:37 PM
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Know a good video or walk-through? This stuff fixable myself?
I dunno, probably that Eric dude on the tube
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Old Jun 16, 2016 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by odgreen
Didn't you put in a used compressor? How did you charge the system?
I took it to a buddy's shop, pulled a vaccum for 30 min, and filled it up. The shop owner, my buddy, was in a hurry to get it out of the shop, so we didn't do a leak check, also, since we converted from r12 to r134, he used a chart to convert the amount for r12 to r134, but he thought it sounded like it was too much, better to under fill than overfill, he put a little less than it called for. When I got home, I felt the AC wasn't too cold or I had some kind of leak, so I got one of the AC freon cans from autozone, that's when I think I overfilled it. The Guage I used was broken. And that's when it sprayed out. And yes,it was a used compressor. But everything ran fine. I put more freon in it, and AC was ice cold, just how it should be, but the Gauge on the can said it was still a little low. So I kept filling, then that's when it sprayed out. Also, I drove around for like a week or two before I put more freon in it. So etheir the guage I used was broken or there was air in the system. Also, I got the system evacuated today after this little incidence, and went home and rented vacuum pump and Guage set from autozone, I'm going to pull a vaccum, check for leaks, and refill everything the proper way tomorrow.

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Old Jun 16, 2016 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
I took it to a buddy's shop, pulled a vaccum for 30 min, and filled it up. The shop owner, my buddy, was in a hurry to get it out of the shop, so we didn't do a leak check, also, since we converted from r12 to r134, he used a chart to convert the amount for r12 to r134, but he thought it sounded like it was too much, better to under fill than overfill, he put a little less than it called for. When I got home, I felt the AC wasn't too cold or I had some kind of leak, so I got one of the AC freon cans from autozone, that's when I think I overfilled it. The Guage I used was broken. And that's when it sprayed out. And yes,it was a used compressor. But everything ran fine. I put more freon in it, and AC was ice cold, just how it should be, but the Gauge on the can said it was still a little low. So I kept filling, then that's when it sprayed out. Also, I drove around for like a week or two before I put more freon in it. So etheir the guage I used was broken or there was air in the system. Also, I got the system evacuated today after this little incidence, and went home and rented vacuum pump and Guage set from autozone, I'm going to pull a vaccum, check for leaks, and refill everything the proper way tomorrow.
Ok so you converted a r12 system. Did you drain all the oil out and replace it with pag? The mineral oil in a r12 system will not mix. Also did you swap the expansion block? That's the brass or aluminum block at the firewall. I'm guessing you didn't. Want you're hearing is gurgling-****ed up coming from the expansion block.
Old Jun 16, 2016 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by odgreen
Ok so you converted a r12 system. Did you drain all the oil out and replace it with pag? The mineral oil in a r12 system will not mix. Also did you swap the expansion block? That's the brass or aluminum block at the firewall. I'm guessing you didn't. Want you're hearing is gurgling-****ed up coming from the expansion block.
i did drain and fill with the correct oil but I did not swap the expansion block. Should I go ahead and do that while I have the system evacuated? I figured that it was make that nose since I had overfilled it. Also, I ran AC flush through the expansion block and evaporator until it was clear when I initially installed the AC components weeks ago, then blew it out with air compressor and put a vacuum on it to remove any excess AC flush.
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
i did drain and fill with the correct oil but I did not swap the expansion block. Should I go ahead and do that while I have the system evacuated? I figured that it was make that nose since I had overfilled it. Also, I ran AC flush through the expansion block and evaporator until it was clear when I initially installed the AC components weeks ago, then blew it out with air compressor and put a vacuum on it to remove any excess AC flush.
That doesn't work like that. It is strongly recommended not to flush the evap core. Flush will stay in there for a long time and almost impossible to get it all out.
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
Anybody know what's making this noise? I was putting some r134 into the system cause it was low on freon (really low) then it started making this noise. I thought maybe it was the blower motor put I replaced it about a week ago. The AC lines vibrate while making this noise but the blower motor doesn't. Any ideas? Sounds like it's coming com inside the fire wall or that little metal block that the AC lines pass through.

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Watch the whole video. The sounds stops as soon as I flip AC off.
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nobody knows why my jeeps AC sounds like a dying pig? Lol. I tried unplugging the blower motor while the AC is on and it still makes the noise so I know it's the AC line. Why would it make this noise?
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yea, both in the compressor and the high pressure line. Also, the compressor runs nice and quiet, the sound is coming from the lines where they enter into the fire wall.
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Alright, well, now I was adding some more freon (with UV Die) to the AC system in order find the leak, and then all of a sudden it just sprayed all the freon out of the side of the dryer. Im talking about the little spot where the lines connect. I'm guessing there was some kind of pressure release valve there? The Guage on the freon bottle said it wasn't even full yet. Was there air in the system? What happen? Lol
Getting the flush out of the evap core is a separate issue... Not trying to contradict OD because he's right, you do need to get that out of there, but I never did a flush with mine and I was getting the same noise. The noise is due to over-fill. Take it back to the A/C shop and have them pull some back out.

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... and the top comment in the video's comment chain in which I found the answer

" http://www.youfixcars.com/air-conditioning-noises.html says "A buzzing noise from the compressor when the air-conditioning clutch is engaged is often a sign of an overcharged system. In this scenario the buzzing sound is caused by liquid refrigerant entering the compressor.

Of course, this condition is most common after an air-conditioning service when too much Freon has been added. If this is the case it needs to be corrected as soon as possible, because it can damage the compressor. Also note the AC will not cool properly when it's overcharged."

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Originally Posted by odgreen
That doesn't work like that. It is strongly recommended not to flush the evap core. Flush will stay in there for a long time and almost impossible to get it all out.
so should I replace the evaporator. I think f'd everything up already lol.
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
so should I replace the evaporator. I think f'd everything up already lol.
You may as well. That flush is bad for the system and that core is 23 years old if it's never been replaced anyway.
Old Jun 16, 2016 | 11:25 PM
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sometimes amazon.ca has good prices and free shipping so I'll get stuff from there. for example my RE leaf springs I just bought were from amazon, shipped within canada, so much cheaper than getting from RE themselves.
Yeah, I hear that. Apparently the official Zone distributor is in freakin' BC... almost as useless.

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i'm in quebec city, so about an hour and a half away from trois riviere. val dor is really up north, I've never been there. i think it's almost the same driving time as new york or toronto ~8-10 hours
That's pretty far up there. Not so easy to do a trip across the border lol. I visited maybe 15 years ago and did the tourist thing. I love the European-style small streets that were never widened for automobile traffic.

Val d'Or is a hoot, stayed there on our way back from Radisson/James Bay. It's got that "mining/industrial town in the middle of nowhere" feel to it that you don't find in an older city on a major waterway. Also the street signs depict a giant snow blower eating a car. lol



Anyway, the actual ON TOPIC part!

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anything available at canadian tire or napa really, there isn't many more places. we also have carquest but i never went there.
No no, totally different. These guys load up EVERYTHING with their undercoating. It's amazing the effect it has on a vehicle. It's a little drippy at first, but my Tercel's only rust was from paint chips. It can be done with any similar product, but by spraying this stuff in everywhere it does stop the rust at the seams. It's the only way to keep XJ rockers from rotting out since they're exposed to the environment on both sides, but they trap moisture on the inside. Looks like there's even one near-ish to you lol https://www.krown.com/canada/quebec/quebec/shannon/
Old Jun 17, 2016 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by salad
Also the street signs depict a giant snow blower eating a car. lol

what happens in val d'or, stays in val d'or!

but yeah it used to be a gold mining town i think, so the vibe is definitely there for a reason.

Originally Posted by salad

Anyway, the actual ON TOPIC part!

No no, totally different. These guys load up EVERYTHING with their undercoating. It's amazing the effect it has on a vehicle. It's a little drippy at first, but my Tercel's only rust was from paint chips. It can be done with any similar product, but by spraying this stuff in everywhere it does stop the rust at the seams. It's the only way to keep XJ rockers from rotting out since they're exposed to the environment on both sides, but they trap moisture on the inside. Looks like there's even one near-ish to you lol https://www.krown.com/canada/quebec/quebec/shannon/

ahh ok I get you, when I read rust check i thought about the spray paint brand. the place I use is this : http://www.antirouille.com/traitement-en.html I'm guessing it is a similar product. I get it treated every year at this place, but the rockers are too far gone for saving.

you talked about drippy but since a couple of years they have this new "formula" that is non-dripping and sticks rather well to anything it's applied to. I'm replacing my rockers with 2x6, do you think I should drill a hole and have them shoot inside there, or simply welding shut both ends of the tube would be enough to avoid rust?

and here's a little update on my rust situation. i decided to poke harder and remove some seam sealer to see how bad it is. i still have more digging to do, but in case it rains I don't want it all over the inside so I stopped.


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Originally Posted by Basslicks
Getting the flush out of the evap core is a separate issue... Not trying to contradict OD because he's right, you do need to get that out of there, but I never did a flush with mine and I was getting the same noise. The noise is due to over-fill. Take it back to the A/C shop and have them pull some back out. See my video here... Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U2d5K_iEfs ... and the top comment in the video's comment chain in which I found the answer " http://www.youfixcars.com/air-conditioning-noises.html says "A buzzing noise from the compressor when the air-conditioning clutch is engaged is often a sign of an overcharged system. In this scenario the buzzing sound is caused by liquid refrigerant entering the compressor. Of course, this condition is most common after an air-conditioning service when too much Freon has been added. If this is the case it needs to be corrected as soon as possible, because it can damage the compressor. Also note the AC will not cool properly when it's overcharged."
thanks for the reply everybody. I ended up getting the system completely evacuated, and now I'm back at the house pulling a vaccum on the system, appears to be no leaks as well. That video and your advice helped greatly. I'm using ChrisFix's video on how to properly charge an AC system to do the rest.
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 04:06 PM
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I am getting ready to change the ring and pinon Or have it changed by a shop, any way, has any one used an Elite ring and pinion set sold by RONS MACHINING SERVICE are they any good ?I can get front and rear set with install kit for 495 .00 seemed like a good deal looking for some feed back,Thank You !!

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Anyone here have a site they go to for overstock mopar parts? I need a power window regulator/track for the driver's side of a 2000 2door xj, part number 55155013AK. The lowest i've found so far is about $107, not sure if this is a decent price or if there's somewhere i can go for cheaper for the same part. any help or guidance would be great
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thanks for the reply everybody. I ended up getting the system completely evacuated, and now I'm back at the house pulling a vaccum on the system, appears to be no leaks as well. That video and your advice helped greatly. I'm using ChrisFix's video on how to properly charge an AC system to do the rest.
Sweet - keep us posted

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Anyone here have a site they go to for overstock mopar parts? I need a power window regulator/track for the driver's side of a 2000 2door xj, part number 55155013AK. The lowest i've found so far is about $107, not sure if this is a decent price or if there's somewhere i can go for cheaper for the same part. any help or guidance would be great
http://www.moparpartsoverstock.com/



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