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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
is the gm Dana 60/44 low or high opinion?
GM axles are passenger side drop. Some dodge axles are both sides depending on the year. Ford axles are driver's side drop


However both dodge and GM are low pinion
Old Oct 12, 2015 | 03:20 PM
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Is the rodeo/passport Dana 44 front or rear? Or both?
Old Oct 12, 2015 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
Is the rodeo/passport Dana 44 front or rear? Or both?
Rear
Old Oct 12, 2015 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Well it looks like the airbag deployed in the black one. 99 times out of 100, that's a totaled vehicle. I don't know the regs in your state, but it may not be eligible for registration again. If so, that seriously diminishes the sale value. I wouldn't pay over $500 for it in that case. The one without a motor, I wouldn't pay more than $500 for.

For me personally, I'd pay up to $1k for the pair, assuming I had the facilities and equipment to perform the motor swap. You also end up with a high trim level parts vehicle, so you can mix-and-match or break-and-replace almost anything on the Jeep at least once. Or you can resell some of the more rare/valuable parts to partially recoup your investment.
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Yup. Clown said it best. Can't really add much. Then again I'm just floatin around right now.
That's not true @sycoglitch
Not only can you add to it, someone should ..

I asked about what year engine should I get if just make an offer for the engine-less classic. .. that was Not addressed

It was obvious that the Ltd was just a pasts jeep but it has been previously mentioned that the LTD has the problematic engine year. SO since the LTD was just to be a donor/parts Jeep, primarily for the engine, it doesn't make sense to purchase it for said engine.
Old Oct 12, 2015 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny74
That's not true @sycoglitch
Not only can you add to it, someone should ..

I asked about what year engine should I get if just make an offer for the engine-less classic. .. that was Not addressed

It was obvious that the Ltd was just a pasts jeep but it has been previously mentioned that the LTD has the problematic engine year. SO since the LTD was just to be a donor/parts Jeep, primarily for the engine, it doesn't make sense to purchase it for said engine.
An astute point. The '00/01 engines have a head that is prone to cracking when it overheats. If you swap out to a different head or ensure the Jeep's cooling system is maintained, it should be fine. They don't all crack, but many of these old Jeep's aren't driven by people who know how to, or even care to, maintain their vehicle
Old Oct 12, 2015 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
An astute point. The '00/01 engines have a head that is prone to cracking when it overheats. If you swap out to a different head or ensure the Jeep's cooling system is maintained, it should be fine. They don't all crack, but many of these old Jeep's aren't driven by people who know how to, or even care to, maintain their vehicle
Hmmm.. OK ... thank you.

How about we try this question.

What year engine would be recommended as best, to put into the Cherokee Classic, and what would anyone say are the years of engines I have to choose from.?

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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny74
That's not true @sycoglitch
Not only can you add to it, someone should ..

I asked about what year engine should I get if just make an offer for the engine-less classic. .. that was Not addressed

It was obvious that the Ltd was just a pasts jeep but it has been previously mentioned that the LTD has the problematic engine year. SO since the LTD was just to be a donor/parts Jeep, primarily for the engine, it doesn't make sense to purchase it for said engine.
The 01 engine isn't the worst thing in the world and ppl make it worse than it is. I do admit I hate my dual cats. But if he has an engine out already, OBVIOUSLY it should be slightly rebuilt and freshened up. I mean that's only smart
Old Oct 12, 2015 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
The 01 engine isn't the worst thing in the world and ppl make it worse than it is. I do admit I hate my dual cats. But if he has an engine out already, OBVIOUSLY it should be slightly rebuilt and freshened up. I mean that's only smart
Sorry if my earlier posts were confusing.
There is one jeep that has no engine in it; that's the Classic trim.
Then there is another that has the engine still in it and runs but has front end damage.. That's the LTD.
Two different sellers.
There is no engine out of a vehicle that come with ether of them.
Old Oct 12, 2015 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny74
Hmmm.. OK ... thank you.

How about we try this question.

What year engine would be recommended as best, to put into the Cherokee Classic, and what would anyone say are the years of engines I have to choose from.?
This is outside my expertise at this point, but I believe swapping in an older engine would be problematic due to emissions laws (and possibly the computer). Somebody here should be able to give solid advice on which stock or aftermarket head would be the best replacement for an '01.
Old Oct 12, 2015 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny74
Sorry if my earlier posts were confusing.
There is one jeep that has no engine in it; that's the Classic trim.
Then there is another that has the engine still in it and runs but has front end damage.. That's the LTD.
Two different sellers.
There is no engine out of a vehicle that come with ether of them.
What clown stated before is what's said. If you have a yard and tools and the money. Buy both. Yes for less than asked obviously. Start picking what's good from the limited and put on the classic. Now the engine from the ltd. Take it out, rebuild. Put new TUPY head, iirc but yes correct me if I'm wrong peoples, and open up and inspect. Just cause the engines running now, if its out of the vehicle, because you're pulling it out, then rebuild it.
Old Oct 12, 2015 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
This is outside my expertise at this point, but I believe swapping in an older engine would be problematic due to emissions laws (and possibly the computer). Somebody here should be able to give solid advice on which stock or aftermarket head would be the best replacement for an '01.
0331 TUPY casting from a 2002 or newer 4.0L (eg WJ, TJ) will work - if you can find one - or an older 0630 (1996-1999) will bolt up IF you use an adapter. The 0331 series of heads changed the exhaust ports slightly, enough to prevent the engine from working well if you bolt up the wrong manifold. Really you can just get a complete long block from an older XJ if you get the adapter.
Old Oct 13, 2015 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
What clown stated before is what's said. If you have a yard and tools and the money. Buy both. Yes for less than asked obviously. Start picking what's good from the limited and put on the classic. Now the engine from the ltd. Take it out, rebuild. Put new TUPY head, iirc but yes correct me if I'm wrong peoples, and open up and inspect. Just cause the engines running now, if its out of the vehicle, because you're pulling it out, then rebuild it.

Umm.. I'm not gonna rebuild any engines, not anytime soon. If I wanted to rebuild an engine I wouldn't bother with the running parts jeep and just go to my local JY and get one there for a few hundred. There is a possibility that I would do a head swap tho, but then again that's why i asked the questions, so I would have options and can decide for myself if I can find a better donor engine .. but you'all are such great politicians on here .. you answer my questions without really answering them ..lol

As to price and getting them for less:
The seller for the LTD is firm, and the seller of the Classic told me he is willing to negotiate some but said "only in person and bring cash and a trailer because I'm not dancing back and forth for days again."

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Old Oct 13, 2015 | 12:31 PM
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So I'm in the process of putting a crate motor in my 2000 xj. Long story. But I was looking at putting in a aftermarket odometer so I know how many miles are on the new engine ( I'm terrible of keeping track of that kind of stuff) but I also want my stock odometer to work so I know what milage the body has. Anyone got any recommendations on a way about doing this or even a good brand of gauge? Any help is appreciated. Thanks guys
Old Oct 13, 2015 | 12:44 PM
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So I'm in the process of putting a crate motor in my 2000 xj. Long story. But I was looking at putting in a aftermarket odometer so I know how many miles are on the new engine ( I'm terrible of keeping track of that kind of stuff) but I also want my stock odometer to work so I know what milage the body has. Anyone got any recommendations on a way about doing this or even a good brand of gauge? Any help is appreciated. Thanks guys
do you have an overhead console? Just use your trip odometer in your dash for the new motor, then use your overhead console trip odo for everything else you use one for
Old Oct 13, 2015 | 12:50 PM
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Nope. No over head console. Good thought tho



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