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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by salad

Everything
I guess I'll just count my ride as one of my few blessings then lol
Old Feb 12, 2014 | 08:56 PM
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I have a leak on my 1996 2.5 cherokee around the back part of the block just below the head. I've accepted that it is probably the head gasket, but I started reading some stuff about an oil filter adapter today. I was trying to find something on the 2.5 but I didn't have any luck. Do any of you know if the 2.5 also uses the adapter?
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FruitSnacks

Well, when i bought it, there was only 145k... I paid $1700 hahaha
Ha, i misread your first post. I overlooked the 185k files. Thought you said it doesn't have more than 50k.

With this, the number go down about 1500 on both scales for in ny and outta ny prices. And i hate when ppl say it drives perfect lol. It never does, no offense not singling you out
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch

i hate when ppl say it drives perfect lol.
Technically i didn't say it drives perfect............... Lol
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FruitSnacks

Technically i didn't say it drives perfect............... Lol
Nah, but you did say i drives like its not over 50k. But that's why i said i wasn't singling you out. You see ppl selling their cars and they always say that it runs and drives great. No issues at all. You buy it and engine goes a week later rofl
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 06:30 AM
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I have a good technical question For some of the advanced ppl. Salad and cruiser lol.

Is i possible to put a switch after the HVAC control switch so that the vents will charge positive but the AC, compressor or heat won't go on. Like in never cars you can have the wind that blows in the vehicle just from driving go to your feet so it isn't always blowing your face. Just curious
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
I have a good technical question For some of the advanced ppl. Salad and cruiser lol.

Is i possible to put a switch after the HVAC control switch so that the vents will charge positive but the AC, compressor or heat won't go on. Like in never cars you can have the wind that blows in the vehicle just from driving go to your feet so it isn't always blowing your face. Just curious
My YJ has a switch position called Vent that let's outside air in without heating or cooling. Don't remember if the other Jeeps had that.
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
I have a good technical question For some of the advanced ppl. Salad and cruiser lol.

Is i possible to put a switch after the HVAC control switch so that the vents will charge positive but the AC, compressor or heat won't go on. Like in never cars you can have the wind that blows in the vehicle just from driving go to your feet so it isn't always blowing your face. Just curious
Lmao "advanced people"! Is that what a single writeup and 10 minutes in the FSM gets me? :P

Sorta kinda... Our HVAC is indeed annoying. I've already wired in a switch that kills the compressor so I get bilev and recirculate options with heat. Essentially what you want to do is disable the fan. In '97+ XJs the blower motor gets power directly from a 40A fuse in the PDC. The resistor pack is actually part of the motor's ground path. The fan speed **** in the HVAC panel grounds each leg of the resistor pack, and the overly complex mode **** grounds the fan speed switch.

Since the HVAC panel is a giant circuit board and it only has one ground it'd be easier to control power to the fan upstream. There are two ways I can see to do this, the simplest is to break the control side of the relay in the HVAC unit. Not sure how much wire there is to work with but since it's low current and in the cab already it should be very doable with a switch. If this isn't possible another way is to plop a new relay under the hood between the PDC and blower motor and do a switch in the cab.


Old Feb 13, 2014 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
I have a good technical question For some of the advanced ppl. Salad and cruiser lol. Is i possible to put a switch after the HVAC control switch so that the vents will charge positive but the AC, compressor or heat won't go on. Like in never cars you can have the wind that blows in the vehicle just from driving go to your feet so it isn't always blowing your face. Just curious
wow I wanna be an advanced person ha
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by emzdogz
So anyway, I got it back from the shop. Close to $800 - they also replaced the radiator, a couple of hoses, rad cap, thermostat, and a sensor that it is sort of behind the head near the firewall.
$800 for a radiator. People bash me when I say this stuff aint easy.
But, if it was easy, mechanics would not be able to charge $800 for (supposedly) about a hour of work.
That's more than doctors and lawyers wages.
You got off lucky. He could have charged you $1500 and still had a line of customers around the block.

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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

My YJ has a switch position called Vent that let's outside air in without heating or cooling. Don't remember if the other Jeeps had that.
I wish. Even to put recirculate on and close the vents, the AC turuns on.

Originally Posted by salad

Lmao "advanced people"! Is that what a single writeup and 10 minutes in the FSM gets me? :P

Sorta kinda... Our HVAC is indeed annoying. I've already wired in a switch that kills the compressor so I get bilev and recirculate options with heat. Essentially what you want to do is disable the fan. In '97+ XJs the blower motor gets power directly from a 40A fuse in the PDC. The resistor pack is actually part of the motor's ground path. The fan speed **** in the HVAC panel grounds each leg of the resistor pack, and the overly complex mode **** grounds the fan speed switch.

Since the HVAC panel is a giant circuit board and it only has one ground it'd be easier to control power to the fan upstream. There are two ways I can see to do this, the simplest is to break the control side of the relay in the HVAC unit. Not sure how much wire there is to work with but since it's low current and in the cab already it should be very doable with a switch. If this isn't possible another way is to plop a new relay under the hood between the PDC and blower motor and do a switch in the cab.
It wierd how they wired it all to one switch like that. Ill look over the schematics and see what i come up with. Thanks.

And besides, i doubt many other users would Chime in before you or cruiser did lol. So yea, "advanced" rofl
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BimmerJeeper
$800 for a radiator. People bash me when I say this stuff aint easy.
But, if it was easy, mechanics would not be able to charge $800 for (supposedly) about a hour of work.
That's more than doctors and lawyers wages.
You got off lucky. He could have charged you $1500 and still had a line of customers around the block.
Go back and read his actual post.

For $800:

- New freeze plugs
- Head was pulled (new bolts, new gaskets, possibly minor machine shop work)
- New radiator
- New thermostat
- Other bits

I'd guess the breakdown is 2:3 for parts:labor. So he paid approximately $480 for a garage to remove and reinstall both exhaust and intake manifolds, remove and reinstall the head, cleaning of all gasket surfaces, replacement of the thermostat, and replacement of the radiator and hoses. This work would easily take a single person an entire day, if so, putting the shop rate at $60/hr.
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
And besides, i doubt many other users would Chime in before you or cruiser did lol. So yea, "advanced" rofl
That just means we're not working lol
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by salad

That just means we're not working lol
Well get on it lol
Old Feb 13, 2014 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by salad

Go back and read his actual post.

For $800:

- New freeze plugs
- Head was pulled (new bolts, new gaskets, possibly minor machine shop work)
- New radiator
- New thermostat
- Other bits

I'd guess the breakdown is 2:3 for parts:labor. So he paid approximately $480 for a garage to remove and reinstall both exhaust and intake manifolds, remove and reinstall the head, cleaning of all gasket surfaces, replacement of the thermostat, and replacement of the radiator and hoses. This work would easily take a single person an entire day, if so, putting the shop rate at $60/hr.
Sounds about right



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