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Old Mar 2, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Did you replace your temperature sensor with a sending unit? What about oil pressure?
Yes i replaced both. Oil pressure works fine. Thw engine temp one seems to work fine but the needle seems to be off by alot. Way below where it should be, but the temp does go up and stuff and stays steady after its running for awhile. I just dont know the temp because the needle is off.
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/re...-8-25-a-57807/

Read through this and see if it answers your questions. You use all you existing stock parts and strip down rear axle to the shaft. Put on the new backing plate and the soft line of the caliper goes to the hard line that runs on the axle. You'll need to change the PV internals to that of the zj
Originally Posted by cruiser54
Use your hard lines. The prop valve is near the master cylinder.
After reading about swapping the prop valve, it sounds like the only time it would be needed is in emergency braking. So it's not REALLY necessary. I'll pick one up when I do the booster swap to be safe.
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PNWjeeper

After reading about swapping the prop valve, it sounds like the only time it would be needed is in emergency braking. So it's not REALLY necessary. I'll pick one up when I do the booster swap to be safe.
I'm bypassing the proportioning on my Comanche. They fail. If it hasn't yet, it will. In the case of a Comanche proportioning setup, it will explode when it fails, and we lose our brakes.
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 01:12 PM
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By far one of my favorite replies lol we finally got it off last night! We had to turn it super slow, otherwise it would just pop. Does anybody know what that poppin was?
To my ears, that was a creaking sound. Tomato, tomahto.

It's the sound of victory. Creeeeaaak. Creeeeaaak. Shudder.

The rewarding sound of your effort overcoming the friction between the bolt threads, and the evil factory loctite. Good vs. evil. And evil losing.
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sycoglitch
Yea. Has to be at least a 4.5" lift cause even the springs look aftermarket. Tht or they just cleaned em good and sprayed em down
Yes it does have spacers. we just got ones that are bigger. Wanna do it right though so not putting em on til we correct the control arm issues. I'll keep you guys updated on what route we decide to go with. Thanks so much for your help!
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PNWjeeper

After reading about swapping the prop valve, it sounds like the only time it would be needed is in emergency braking. So it's not REALLY necessary. I'll pick one up when I do the booster swap to be safe.
I agree about the only needed it time. Sadly here in ny, those times arise too much even when driving normally. I'm looking to do the internals and leave it from there but there have been ppl that don't even do internals an everything works fine. It's a trial an error thing
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

I'm bypassing the proportioning on my Comanche. They fail. If it hasn't yet, it will. In the case of a Comanche proportioning setup, it will explode when it fails, and we lose our brakes.
Ain't the manche ones self adjusting
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

I'm bypassing the proportioning on my Comanche. They fail. If it hasn't yet, it will. In the case of a Comanche proportioning setup, it will explode when it fails, and we lose our brakes.
So if I just use the entire brake setup from the 99 XJ with the 8.25 and ZJ discs and prop internals on the MJ, there's no need to deal with that adjusting valve in the rear right?
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hick92

Ain't the manche ones self adjusting
It proportions based on bed height. There's a cable on the rear diff that XJs don't have, and it opens/closes the brake valve based on bed height (as a weight sensor). More weight in the bed means more rear brakes.

There are three problems:
Many of the valves were not drilled all the way through when they were made. That means no rear brake power.
If that proportioning system fails due to age and stress, which they do, the valves breaks apart and you lose your brakes without warning.
The Comanche setup has more lines than an XJ. There's a second line running to the rear axle, which doubles the chances of a brake line rusting through.


One fix for all this is to plug the failsafe line (which XJs don't even have), and run the remaining rear line to the rubber hose instead of the proportioner. This gives full power to rear brakes at all times, and it's what I'm doing.
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

It proportions based on bed height. There's a cable on the rear diff that XJs don't have, and it opens/closes the brake valve based on bed height (as a weight sensor). More weight in the bed means more rear brakes.

There are three problems:
Many of the valves were not drilled all the way through when they were made. That means no rear brake power.
If that proportioning system fails due to age and stress, which they do, the valves breaks apart and you lose your brakes without warning.
The Comanche setup has more lines than an XJ. There's a second line running to the rear axle, which doubles the chances of a brake line rusting through.

One fix for all this is to plug the failsafe line (which XJs don't even have), and run the remaining rear line to the rubber hose instead of the proportioner. This gives full power to rear brakes at all times, and it's what I'm doing.
Ok. Thanks for the info. I'm going to start with the ZJ valve and if that's too much for MJ I'll try the XJ valve. Eliminate the MJs all together.
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Ok so I cleaned the throttle body changed the air filter and I plan on running sea foam and changing spark plugs. What else should I do to try to increase mpg? Should change any sensors and if so which ones?
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepcherokee99
Ok so I cleaned the throttle body changed the air filter and I plan on running sea foam and changing spark plugs. What else should I do to try to increase mpg? Should change any sensors and if so which ones?
O2 is a 60k mi wear part, IIRC.
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 03:42 PM
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Would my jeep running at about 198 degrees fully warmed up give me a little lower mpg? Everything in the cooling system is factory spec, new radiator, heater core, hoses and flush
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

O2 is a 60k mi wear part, IIRC.
What is IIRC?
Old Mar 2, 2013 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepcherokee99

What is IIRC?
If I Recall Correctly



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