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Old May 17, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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I have a 98 cherokee. Just got rc 4.5 inch lift. Are Degree shims needed even with the t case drop? I mostly worried about driveline vibes. Plan on doing a slope yoke eliminator eventually but want a bandaid for the time being.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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I didn't use them.
IIRC the stock driveshaft needs to have the pinon parallel with the tcase output.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 11:19 PM
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Your ran the same setup and were fine? Should I buy the shims just to play it safe ?
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Old May 18, 2012 | 12:41 AM
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I did the tcase drop.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 01:10 AM
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1 no you don't need them but highly recommend 3(degree) for 2-5.5" 6(degree) 5.5+ .
2 Shims are not a bandaid they fix a real problem with lifting solid axle trucks and suvs and can be used permanently
3 tools I recommend for doing lift and sye, top of the line lock ring plyers (sye),
Pickle fork for steering parts and bolts, used it alot, I hope I helped some,
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Old May 18, 2012 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mr white
the stock driveshaft needs to have the pinon parallel with the tcase output.
Vary important as well. Cuts the vibs down a lot
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Old May 18, 2012 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 10hayesp
I have a 98 cherokee. Just got rc 4.5 inch lift. Are Degree shims needed even with the t case drop? I mostly worried about driveline vibes. Plan on doing a slope yoke eliminator eventually but want a bandaid for the time being.
The bandaid is the tcase drop the shims are for a serious think like everyones said. If you don't understand standard the angle thing I can take a picture for you.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 09:49 AM
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The standard Driveshaft / Pinion angle geometry link:

http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html

(For reference, you have a "Two Joint Shaft" unless you have an SYE, in which case you have the "C.V. Drive Shaft")
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Old May 19, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Zacks98

The bandaid is the tcase drop the shims are for a serious think like everyones said. If you don't understand standard the angle thing I can take a picture for you.
I now what your saying about the shims. So 3 degree shims would be a good choice ?
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Old May 19, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 10hayesp

I now what your saying about the shims. So 3 degree shims would be a good choice ?
No. If you are using the slip yoke driveshaft you want the pinion on the axle side parallel to the transfer case output. Check the link in the above post.
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Old May 19, 2012 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 10hayesp

I now what your saying about the shims. So 3 degree shims would be a good choice ?
I have a 1" tcase drop with 2.5* shims in my 98 with 4.5" and I have no vibrations..works fine for me. Its not the best but for right now it works fine.

Again you need to read the above link as well.
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Without SYE (Convention Two Joint DriveShaft)

From the image,ideally, you want the centerline of the transfer case/output shaft to be parallel to the differential.
I would start with a transfer case drop then make proper adjustment(with shims) to you pinion angle to get as parallel to the transfer case as possible.

My RC 4.5" lift kit came with a 1.25" transfer case drop kit, so i'm assuming a 1.25" transfer case drop would be a good start.

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Old May 21, 2012 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BotakBeng
Without SYE (Convention Two Joint DriveShaft)

From the image,ideally, you want the centerline of the transfer case/output shaft to be parallel to the differential.
I would start with a transfer case drop then make proper adjustment(with shims) to you pinion angle to get as parallel to the transfer case as possible.

My RC 4.5" lift kit came with a 1.25" transfer case drop kit, so i'm assuming a 1.25" transfer case drop would be a good start.
Yeah mine came with one too ill just start with that and see where things go witb vibes and such
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