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because my sye came with a hd main shaft, it's a lot easier to mess up a hack n tap, I've heard about the output shaft bending from rear axle drooping (heard not seen), and I just feel like it's the more right way to go. It's personal preference mostly.
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I have had a H&T on my 242 for many years now with no probs I was just asking in case you have seen one fail..
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Originally Posted by Dumajones
hmmm bending output shaft is a new one to me.
I have had a H&T on my 242 for many years now with no probs I was just asking in case you have seen one fail..
I have had a H&T on my 242 for many years now with no probs I was just asking in case you have seen one fail..
Pictures from a close friend? Yes.
Full SYEs are stronger than Hack n Taps. Not saying they're bad or breaking often, but a full SYE is a better choice. But for a 242 you don't have too much choice for an SYE, they are made but expensive.
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So on your friends H&T what was the point of failure
Did the shaft split and crack, or plain old snap off at the yoke? I would love to see pics. Im just curious where the failure started..
Last edited by Dumajones; Mar 25, 2016 at 02:21 AM.
Today is the big day.. Ill be ordering my Rusty's advanced 3" lift kit for my '89. It comes with UCA's, LCA's, extended front and rear brake lines, and a track bar. Plus the normal lifting components (full leaf pack, coils, shocks). Adding a transfer case drop kit also. Am I missing absolutely anything to be able to run 31" tires? I feel like this covers it all. But what I've found is that it's a case by case thing. Any opinions?
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Today is the big day.. Ill be ordering my Rusty's advanced 3" lift kit for my '89. It comes with UCA's, LCA's, extended front and rear brake lines, and a track bar. Plus the normal lifting components (full leaf pack, coils, shocks). Adding a transfer case drop kit also. Am I missing absolutely anything to be able to run 31" tires? I feel like this covers it all. But what I've found is that it's a case by case thing. Any opinions?
What I've read is that these control arms that come with it are bent to prevent them rubbing. Or are all aftermarket control arms bent lol? Alright ill check out an sye and do some more research on it.
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Bent control arms are usually bent to allow more axle droop before the LCA hits the shock mounting plate. The roundness of the LCA tubes helps prevent tread blocks from getting locked against them, but the tires will still rub the arms.
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Today is the big day.. Ill be ordering my Rusty's advanced 3" lift kit for my '89. It comes with UCA's, LCA's, extended front and rear brake lines, and a track bar. Plus the normal lifting components (full leaf pack, coils, shocks). Adding a transfer case drop kit also. Am I missing absolutely anything to be able to run 31" tires? I feel like this covers it all. But what I've found is that it's a case by case thing. Any opinions?
Yes! That would be great! could you pm me some pics of install if you have them? And anything you found out you needed during install?
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Also, what control arm options are you choosing, and are you getting Rusty's sway bar disconnects?




