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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
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Originally Posted by DontWalk
Satirical Hen - OME or RE?
hey guys, im looking to lift my 92 Cherokee Laredo. and I have a couple questions. ive been debating between re and rough country... I know I know completely different companies. cheap=roughcountry quality=RE. but my question is ive been looking for a 4.5 lift and the difference between the kits im looking to buy is roughly $450. I don't offraoding much but plan on hitting quite a few trails with my buddies. ive heard a lot of people say if you want the best kit out there "make your own" that being said... ive been looking into the rubicon express front coils and rear leaf spring packs and rough countrys upper and lower control arms because they are adjustable. I would also probably also go with the rc quick discos and extended brake lines. I guess my question is, has anybody out there done this? what are the pros and cons of doing a lift "kit" like this? and any other helpful information would be greatful. thanks a lot guys
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
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hey guys, im looking to lift my 92 Cherokee Laredo. and I have a couple questions. ive been debating between re and rough country... I know I know completely different companies. cheap=roughcountry quality=RE. but my question is ive been looking for a 4.5 lift and the difference between the kits im looking to buy is roughly $450. I don't offraoding much but plan on hitting quite a few trails with my buddies. ive heard a lot of people say if you want the best kit out there "make your own" that being said... ive been looking into the rubicon express front coils and rear leaf spring packs and rough countrys upper and lower control arms because they are adjustable. I would also probably also go with the rc quick discos and extended brake lines. I guess my question is, has anybody out there done this? what are the pros and cons of doing a lift "kit" like this? and any other helpful information would be greatful. thanks a lot guys
RE springs are great. Don't get RC leaf springs.
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From: Belton S.C.
Year: 1998
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hey guys, im looking to lift my 92 Cherokee Laredo. and I have a couple questions. ive been debating between re and rough country... I know I know completely different companies. cheap=roughcountry quality=RE. but my question is ive been looking for a 4.5 lift and the difference between the kits im looking to buy is roughly $450. I don't offraoding much but plan on hitting quite a few trails with my buddies. ive heard a lot of people say if you want the best kit out there "make your own" that being said... ive been looking into the rubicon express front coils and rear leaf spring packs and rough countrys upper and lower control arms because they are adjustable. I would also probably also go with the rc quick discos and extended brake lines. I guess my question is, has anybody out there done this? what are the pros and cons of doing a lift "kit" like this? and any other helpful information would be greatful. thanks a lot guys
Don't use RC discos either they are complete junk. I run RE coils and leafs with a RC long arm upgrade kit and have zero complaints. Build your own kit that way you get what you want and save a little money too. It's about time for sale season, so it'd be a good time to start picking up components.
BTW. Avoid the RC track bar as well. Go with RE or IRO, I'm running the IRO and it is 100% pure beef!
Don't use RC discos either they are complete junk. I run RE coils and leafs with a RC long arm upgrade kit and have zero complaints. Build your own kit that way you get what you want and save a little money too. It's about time for sale season, so it'd be a good time to start picking up components.
BTW. Avoid the RC track bar as well. Go with RE or IRO, I'm running the IRO and it is 100% pure beef!
BTW. Avoid the RC track bar as well. Go with RE or IRO, I'm running the IRO and it is 100% pure beef!
OME kits are great, and they're known for their ride quality, but most OME "kits" are just springs and shocks and run shorter than other brands. Some places will include a set of swaybar quick disconnects though.
hey guys, im looking to lift my 92 Cherokee Laredo. and I have a couple questions. ive been debating between re and rough country... I know I know completely different companies. cheap=roughcountry quality=RE. but my question is ive been looking for a 4.5 lift and the difference between the kits im looking to buy is roughly $450. I don't offraoding much but plan on hitting quite a few trails with my buddies. ive heard a lot of people say if you want the best kit out there "make your own" that being said... ive been looking into the rubicon express front coils and rear leaf spring packs and rough countrys upper and lower control arms because they are adjustable. I would also probably also go with the rc quick discos and extended brake lines. I guess my question is, has anybody out there done this? what are the pros and cons of doing a lift "kit" like this? and any other helpful information would be greatful. thanks a lot guys
The benefit to piecing together a kit though is you can mix and match to get exactly which parts you want, like chipmaker did with RE springs and RC long-arms, and you can pick up parts over time if needed. We've done a ton of hybrid RE/TNT kits with RE springs and small parts with a TNT Y-link kit, and hybrid OME kits with OME springs/shocks and RE or JKS components. Even on my own XJ I'm running a mix of RE and JKS parts, and our JK's suspension is a mix of RE and Synergy (with a few TeraFlex bits thrown in for good measure, lol).
Those are two VERY different lift kits. Both are very nice, but it's really apples to oranges there. On a rig with stock bumpers and little armor, that RE 3.5" is going to sit more like 4.5". It also comes with a lot more parts than what you'll get with an OME kit, and there's a good chance you'll need to do an SYE kit and rear driveshaft with the RE kit.
OME kits are great, and they're known for their ride quality, but most OME "kits" are just springs and shocks and run shorter than other brands. Some places will include a set of swaybar quick disconnects though.
Typically you'll spend more piecing together a kit than you will buying a complete off the shelf kit, but it depends on brands, deals you find, etc. The UCAs that RE uses in their SuperFlex kits are adjustable, but their lowers are fixed length. IMHO you don't really need adjustable lowers though as there's enough caster adjustment in the LCA mounts on the body to get the caster set properly. If you're looking to do a short-arm kit that's a mix of RE and RC stuff though, I'd say spend the bit extra to just get a complete RE kit - I think you'll be happier in the long-run.
The benefit to piecing together a kit though is you can mix and match to get exactly which parts you want, like chipmaker did with RE springs and RC long-arms, and you can pick up parts over time if needed. We've done a ton of hybrid RE/TNT kits with RE springs and small parts with a TNT Y-link kit, and hybrid OME kits with OME springs/shocks and RE or JKS components. Even on my own XJ I'm running a mix of RE and JKS parts, and our JK's suspension is a mix of RE and Synergy (with a few TeraFlex bits thrown in for good measure, lol).
OME kits are great, and they're known for their ride quality, but most OME "kits" are just springs and shocks and run shorter than other brands. Some places will include a set of swaybar quick disconnects though.
Typically you'll spend more piecing together a kit than you will buying a complete off the shelf kit, but it depends on brands, deals you find, etc. The UCAs that RE uses in their SuperFlex kits are adjustable, but their lowers are fixed length. IMHO you don't really need adjustable lowers though as there's enough caster adjustment in the LCA mounts on the body to get the caster set properly. If you're looking to do a short-arm kit that's a mix of RE and RC stuff though, I'd say spend the bit extra to just get a complete RE kit - I think you'll be happier in the long-run.
The benefit to piecing together a kit though is you can mix and match to get exactly which parts you want, like chipmaker did with RE springs and RC long-arms, and you can pick up parts over time if needed. We've done a ton of hybrid RE/TNT kits with RE springs and small parts with a TNT Y-link kit, and hybrid OME kits with OME springs/shocks and RE or JKS components. Even on my own XJ I'm running a mix of RE and JKS parts, and our JK's suspension is a mix of RE and Synergy (with a few TeraFlex bits thrown in for good measure, lol).
thanks for the help been debating of just going all in and getting the RE lift kit. ive heard that the RE kit doesn't come with a more complete kit where as people say rc comes with more of a complete kit. is this true? or should I be fine with all I need with RE not including a new ds and sye
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Which of these looks mildly aggressive with off-road use but has the LEAST amount of road moan? BFG MK2 for instance... how quiet are they at highway speeds? Which is the loudest, or quietest? I remember in high school the rednecks with huge super swampers could be heard from a mile away WahhHHhHHhhHhhhHh....
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From: Northern Kentucky
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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Friends, So I bought a 2000 XJ with a 5.5 " suspension list, and the following extra features: Rusty's HD front coil springs with custom 6061- aluminum 1.5 " blocks. S10 rear leaf spring swap with 1 inch aluminum blocks and 6 degree wedges custom adjustable control arms with Rubicon Express builder bushings Rusty's Hydro shocks Rubicon Express Hack -N - Tap slip yoke eliminator. Rebuilt rear shaft with Spicer CV joint. Dual Rusty's steering stabilizers. TJ 15"x 8" aluminum wheels 35x12.50 R15 BFG ALL TERRAIN K/O TIRES Full size spare tire with matching wheel B&M transmission cooler stainless rear break hose Extended front sway bar disconnects Rusty's cut out flare fenders I recently hurt my knee and now it's too hard to go in and out of the jeep. I am also only 5'4". any suggestion about what to do to lower this thing, down to maybe a 2 - 3 inch lift would be greatly appreciated. If I just got smaller tires would the height still be appropriate. Also would the suspension be messed up with wrong angles, etc. Thanks for any advice you can offer! Robin
That's the route that I would go anyway... but then again, I'm 6'1".
thanks for the help been debating of just going all in and getting the RE lift kit. ive heard that the RE kit doesn't come with a more complete kit where as people say rc comes with more of a complete kit. is this true? or should I be fine with all I need with RE not including a new ds and sye
RC's kit used to only come with brake line relocation brackets but they've since updated it to include new front/rear brake lines.
RC also changed up their trackbar setup which necessitated them adding a drop pitman arm to their kit too, whereas RE's kit doesn't need or use a drop pitman arm.
RE uses a combo of shorter leafs and lift shackles for their rear lift though (which IMHO is a better way to go) vs RC's full 4.5" leafs that use the stock shackles.
FWIW we seem to have more customers come back and buy replacement bushings and flex joint rebuild kits for their RC arms than we do for RE arms.

Also, we're going to be running a promo on RE kits w/shocks soon - I'll post up about it in the vendor forum here in the next day or three.




