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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Slappy Abbot
Perhaps it is in the link you provided, but I have not read all of it yet. But do you know off-hand if there is a known limit of lift height that the front drive shaft cannot compensate for?
I've heard (without first hand experience) that it's good to about 4.5-5" of lift. After that, a ZJ Grand Cherokee front driveshaft will give about 2" more length. You should definitely look into that to confirm it, though, cause I'm not entirely sure about it
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
I've heard (without first hand experience) that it's good to about 4.5-5" of lift. After that, a ZJ Grand Cherokee front driveshaft will give about 2" more length. You should definitely look into that to confirm it, though, cause I'm not entirely sure about it
Roger. Just curious, as I am leaning towards the lower end of the lift spectrum.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Slappy Abbot
Roger. Just curious, as I am leaning towards the lower end of the lift spectrum.
Understandable. Let me give you this link to review:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/bud...herokee-58797/
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Understandable. Let me give you this link to review:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/bud...herokee-58797/
Cool, thanks!
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 02:06 AM
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Bastard pack question:
I understand the standard practice is to reuse the XJ main leaf and swap in any combination of XJ and 2.5" wide donor leafs under it. Trim the ends off the longer leafs to fit under the XJ main, and drill out the center pin hole to fit a bolt through the pack. Easy.

XJ packs are 51.5" long across the main leaf surface, 23" from the front eye to the center pin and 28.5" from center pin to rear eye.

So here's the question:
If I were to use full S10 leaf packs, which are 54" (26x28), I feel like the increased arch (due to the ~4" lift) would partially offset the longer surface length of the leafs, resulting in only a 1-2" stretch to the rear. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on that. Following that, though, couldn't I just drill a new hole in the perch to re-center the axle? Then the only change would be longer leaf springs, which would go well with an extended shackle. Thoughts?

Of course this isn't based on any calculations. Just thinking

EDIT:
Found someone who did it. Full 3-leaf S10 pack without any XJ springs. He also used a longer leaf spring perch to allow him to move the axle 1" forward after the 2.5" stretch for a final result of 1.5" stretch.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/s.../#post11359371


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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom95YJ
I'm the same way. I dread working on the XJ cause **** always goes wrong then I get pissed and start throwing tools ( which is why I've had to replace Sheetrock in my garage ) My YJ I love working on it. Plenty of room and everything goes smooth as silk
The last car that I worked on before the XJ was my Dodge Stealth, in comparison working under the XJ is like working in a meeting hall
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 02:53 PM
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Can I fit 35s on 2.5 inches of lift?
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 03:00 PM
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Sure, if you don't mind hacking up you XJ with a sawzall.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Luke95
Can I fit 35s on 2.5 inches of lift?
Simple answer: No

Long answer: No

Even longer answer: Probably, but why??
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunmetal97
Simple answer: No

Long answer: No

Even longer answer: Probably, but why??
Because I can.
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This is what I am going for.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Luke95
Because I can.

This is what I am going for.
Looks good!
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunmetal97
Looks good!
Thanks.
Im stretching the front and linking the rear and going lower.
Its at 2.5-3 inches of lift and I am going to rough country 3 inch coils (They sag and sit about 2.5 inches brand new on my rig.)
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Luke95
Thanks.
Im stretching the front and linking the rear and going lower.
Its at 2.5-3 inches of lift and I am going to rough country 3 inch coils (They sag and sit about 2.5 inches brand new on my rig.)
Keep us updated!
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunmetal97
Keep us updated!
The link to my builds in the sig
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Luke95
The link to my builds in the sig
Go for it Luke. I run 36's on 2.5" you got to mod your inner fender wells to do it right and still have decent flex. I mean there is not another way unless you go long arm and let it drop. In this picture it's shortened also. Which you dont need.

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