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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 10:56 PM
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NewKindOfClown.....did you just ask OUR opinion? I'm in shock.
The site was slow. Then Slappy gave me something to do But get ready for another...

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Think I sent it. BTW I don't consider myself IT illiterate, there just appears to be a crap ton of buttons on this site and while I spend a lot of time reading forums, usually don't spend too much time contributing (for better or worse).
I got it, thanks.

So I'm researching this shock situation, and it seems Bilstein and Edelbrock both made/make shocks for Rubicon Express. Who makes yours depends on what year they were made and what application you're ordering for. I'm gonna email a couple companies and ask for the current situation

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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 10:59 PM
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Uh I'd say no lol
the monos cans have bilstein printed on them
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:00 PM
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Unrelated question:

Liquid Iron has had their leaf spring sliders on the market for a few years now, but it's still a huge chore to find information. I see that in 2012 there was a strength/wear issue they wanted to solve with gussets and possibly a full redesign. I haven't seen an update since early last year.

So who uses them? Who has seen them in action? Any complaints or updates about their longevity?
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:22 PM
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Assuming I will need SYE on a 3" lift, can I give a company my specs (Trans., TC, Axle, and Lift) and they will know what to give me? Or is it required/best practice to install lift and SYE and then physically measure prior to ordering? Seems like the later would add a lot of down time to the project.
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Slappy Abbot
Assuming I will need SYE on a 3" lift, can I give a company my specs (Trans., TC, Axle, and Lift) and they will know what to give me? Or is it required/best practice to install lift and SYE and then physically measure prior to ordering? Seems like the later would add a lot of down time to the project.
Best practice is definitely to install the SYE and then measure. Downtime can be limited by installing the SYE and shifting into 4WD until the new rear driveshaft arrives. With only the one shaft in, it'll operate as a front wheel drive vehicle
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Best practice is definitely to install the SYE and then measure. Downtime can be limited by installing the SYE and shifting into 4WD until the new rear driveshaft arrives. With only the one shaft in, it'll operate as a front wheel drive vehicle
And this will have no ill effect on the lifeline of my TC or front end?
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Unrelated question:

Liquid Iron has had their leaf spring sliders on the market for a few years now, but it's still a huge chore to find information. I see that in 2012 there was a strength/wear issue they wanted to solve with gussets and possibly a full redesign. I haven't seen an update since early last year.

So who uses them? Who has seen them in action? Any complaints or updates about their longevity?
Why did I not know about these? I will have to have a set.
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:28 PM
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And this will have no ill effect on the lifeline of my TC or front end?
As long as your driveline is in usable condition, it won't cause any problems. If your u-joints are worn out, you'll want to replace them first
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:28 PM
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Kind of pricy?
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
As long as your driveline is in usable condition, it won't cause any problems. If your u-joints are worn out, you'll want to replace them first
I am confused as to why the rear end needs to be changed via SYE and Driveshaft after lift, but there are no concerns about the front end. Am I missing something obvious? Or is it that front is only used occasionally/off-road?
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Slappy Abbot
I am confused as to why the rear end needs to be changed via SYE and Driveshaft after lift, but there are no concerns about the front end. Am I missing something obvious? Or is it that front is only used occasionally/off-road?
You'll be installing a Slip Yoke Eliminator to --wait for it-- eliminate the slip yoke on the rear output of the transfer case. The front doesn't use a slip yoke, and you'll be converting the rear to use the same configuration. This is why you can use a front driveshaft out back after the conversion.

There's a lot of reading here (a couple long posts), but it's a very good resource for explaining/understanding SYEs and their necessity:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/o...l-read-426483/
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
You'll be installing a Slip Yoke Eliminator to --wait for it-- eliminate the slip yoke on the rear output of the transfer case. The front doesn't use a slip yoke, and you'll be converting the rear to use the same configuration. This is why you can use a front driveshaft out back after the conversion.

There's a lot of reading here (a couple long posts), but it's a very good resource for explaining/understanding SYEs and their necessity:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/o...l-read-426483/
Thanks. Guess I got a lot more research to do.
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:56 PM
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Thanks. Guess I got a lot more research to do.
I appreciate you listening and being receptive to information. It's refreshing to have a new person on the site who wants to understand and not just get an answer. We'll be here when you're ready with more questions
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
I appreciate you listening and being receptive to information. It's refreshing to have a new person on the site who wants to understand and not just get an answer. We'll be here when you're ready with more questions
I appreciate all the help I have received thus far and I am sure I'll be back for more.
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
You'll be installing a Slip Yoke Eliminator to --wait for it-- eliminate the slip yoke on the rear output of the transfer case. The front doesn't use a slip yoke, and you'll be converting the rear to use the same configuration. This is why you can use a front driveshaft out back after the conversion.

There's a lot of reading here (a couple long posts), but it's a very good resource for explaining/understanding SYEs and their necessity:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/o...l-read-426483/
Perhaps it is in the link you provided, but I have not read all of it yet. But do you know off-hand if there is a known limit of lift height that the front drive shaft cannot compensate for?
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