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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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Saw this today.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...ntcmp=features

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Jeep’s Cherokee head honcho Mitch Clauw, a veteran from the XJ days, says that even though the new one is more car than truck, it was built to a much higher durability standard than the original and can do everything its forebear can off-road, maybe more.


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Assisting it in this mission is a suite of electronic aids for its all-wheel-drive system that includes hill descent control, a low-speed cruise control that works down to .6 mph, and Select-Terrain, with settings for sand, rock, unplowed mall parking lot, etc.
LOL! It ACTUALLY has mall-wheel-drive. Literally.
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketsEmpty

LOL! It ACTUALLY has mall-wheel-drive. Literally.
I... I... :sigh:
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by emptypockets
Here's a video I was watching where they explain the design:
Wow. He had the ***** to say some design cues were taken from CJs? This guy needs to get his ****ing head checked.

I love how he couldn't speak for the bug-lights in the corner. "A lot of people ask WHY the headlights are like this. Well the headlights are down here. These are DRLs, and they're aerodynamic" uhhhhh so he has no ****ing idea. lol

I love how he admitted that nobody at Jeep actually thought it would pass the test for Trail Rated. hahahaha

Apparently having a little Jeep icon on the windshield makes it authentic. Nice. I'm gonna go paint that on the next Tercel and ask him if he loves offroading.
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Apparently having a little Jeep icon on the windshield makes it authentic. Nice. I'm gonna go paint that on the next Tercel and ask him if he loves offroading.


Yep, I'll take the Tercel. LOL
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 04:12 PM
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Yep, I'll take the Tercel. LOL
**** son, that outflexes the KL I believe
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Wow. He had the ***** to say some design cues were taken from CJs? This guy needs to get his ****ing head checked. I love how he couldn't speak for the bug-lights in the corner. "A lot of people ask WHY the headlights are like this. Well the headlights are down here. These are DRLs, and they're aerodynamic" uhhhhh so he has no ****ing idea. lol I love how he admitted that nobody at Jeep actually thought it would pass the test for Trail Rated. hahahaha Apparently having a little Jeep icon on the windshield makes it authentic. Nice. I'm gonna go paint that on the next Tercel and ask him if he loves offroading.
The CJ styling is a combination of a 7 slot grill and the Jeep etched on the glass. I saw a black trail hawk today they look better in person. I am considering one for my wife to use as a DD
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom95YJ
The CJ styling is a combination of a 7 slot grill and the Jeep etched on the glass.
Nah he was going on about the shape of the hood when he said that. I think that "rounded in the middle" somehow warranted the comparison

Originally Posted by Tom95YJ
I saw a black trail hawk today they look better in person. I am considering one for my wife to use as a DD
Trail Hawk edition for a DD? Kind of pricey for a pavement queen
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Nah he was going on about the shape of the hood when he said that. I think that "rounded in the middle" somehow warranted the comparison Trail Hawk edition for a DD? Kind of pricey for a pavement queen
We like the way it looks much better then the others. Besides mall speed bumps are massive. We are also looking at Subaru crosstecs. No need for 3 wheeling vehicles. My Xj is for family and mild to medium trails I am building my YJ for more hardcore stuff.
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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Tom, you can't be serious!
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Old Nov 1, 2013 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketsEmpty
Tom, you can't be serious!
X2,

I would buy a Crosstrek, Forester, or Outback (depending on what size vehicle I needed) long before I would buy a KL "Cherokee". The Subarus have 8.7" of ground clearance and symmetric-AWD standard, capibilities that only a KL "Trail-Hawk" could beat (and just barely) for a $10k premium. The Subarus are much cheaper, lighter, more fuel-efficient, less-ugly, etc.

You can get the Subarus for the low $20ks ($22k base for Crosstrek and Forester, $23.5K for Outback) with AWD and 8.7" ground clearance standard (as stated above). A 4-cyl FWD KL starts at $23K but a 4WD/AWD KL starts at $25k (4-cyl) and a V6 4WD/AWD KL starts at around $29K, to match the ground clearance of the Subarus you would have to go to the "Trail-Hawk" KL which would start at $30k with a 4-cyl or $32k with a V6. And even the "Trail-Hawk" KL has a 4WD/AWD system that only sends power to the rear if it detects slippage of the front-wheels (more like FWD with rear assist than AWD) as per existing reviews (maybe they fixed this with that emergency transmission reprogram that delayed delivery for several months but I haven't heard anything indicating that yet) versus the Subaru system that is known to work very well and is capable of doing a true 50/50 split.

On the on the other hand you could get a WK2 Grand Cherokee with V6 and 4WD for $31k (base 4WD Laredo) or $34k with Quadra-Drive II (2-speed transfer case) and the "off-road adventure I package" (skid-plates, tow-hooks, AT tires, etc.) which is a far superior vehicle to the KL for only a little more, or a 4-door JK for $26k if you don't need the "luxury features" of the KL or WK2. Or just about any low-mileage used SUV/CUV and have money left over.

I really have a hard time understanding why anyone would buy a KL given it's price-point and availability of better options at both ends of the spectrum.

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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 12:25 AM
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Just the fact that he'd be supporting Jeep making this turd by justifying purchasing one for a DD is what irks me! But, that's how the free market is I reckon...
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by emptypockets
Here's a video I was watching where they explain the design: Video Link: http://youtu.be/mKL7D3UuQJ8 If Wranglers move to IFS, that will be the final nail in Jeeps coffin for many purists.
It's crazy they let *******s like this put pen to paper! The only jeep DNA in this is from the god awful shallow one that the compass came from. Call it a fiat, call it something else. Let the cherokee be dead. Detroit has a bad habit if bringing great car names back from the grave, just to hang on some horrible econo box.( see: nova, dart, exc.) we have non car people designing cars for car people. That my friends is a sad state of affairs.
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 12:44 AM
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I will NEVER by another new car.......never!
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 12:49 AM
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^ that said a$$ holes btw. JEEP 1941-2014 RIP.
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Old Nov 2, 2013 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Cnwxj
...Let the cherokee be dead...
Amen brother!
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