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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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Subscribing to this thread! Lots of great ideas and Im only 1/4 of the way through it.

Is there a way to cut a fiberglass hatch without a lot of dust? I only touched it with a cutting wheel or circular saw and had more dust that I wanna mess with. I am about ready to try a jigsaw or saber saw, unless someone has any better ideas.

And no, i cant readily get ahold of a later.model steel hatch. I have an extra fiberglass one to make a tailgaite out of.
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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TrollHammer
Subscribing to this thread! Lots of great ideas and Im only 1/4 of the way through it.

Is there a way to cut a fiberglass hatch without a lot of dust? I only touched it with a cutting wheel or circular saw and had more dust that I wanna mess with. I am about ready to try a jigsaw or saber saw, unless someone has any better ideas.

And no, i cant readily get ahold of a later.model steel hatch. I have an extra fiberglass one to make a tailgaite out of.
Tape the 'sucking' part of a shotvac onto your sawzall end. By the blade. Almost no dust. I do that when Im working alone and cutting out fiberglass tubs.
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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Zacks98
Tape the 'sucking' part of a shotvac onto your sawzall end. By the blade. Almost no dust. I do that when Im working alone and cutting out fiberglass tubs.
wow congrats bro for having one of the best ideas ive heard in a long time.
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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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troll hammer as in the band?
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
The Cherokee isn't wide enough to resemble a H1.
I did quite a bit of research a year or two ago, and even rendered up what it would look like to convert an XJ to a H1 humvee lookalike. I was suprised to find that the measurements come out very close to proportional: length, width, all come out to about 84.5% scale. The top comes down a bit, and the front axle moves forward about an inch and a half, and the proper tire size is 36" on 16s, but it comes out. I have a render of it side by side with a stock jeep. I was going to do this with my parts jeep after finding out I dont need the engine.

Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
XJs are unibody, they have no traditional frame. It uses the body for structural integrity, and cutting up the rear portion of the top could potentially yeild poor results, ie doors no longer closing/opening because the truck has twisted itself.

Putting your chopped XJ in a situation where it has wheels off the ground puts it in a spot where it has the most potential to get tweeked. Obviously the user who posted pics of his chopped XJ was able to do the chop without having these issues.
The XJ is a unit body on ladderbox frame, and stronger than some give it credit for. In some ways its actually stiffer that a standard body on frame format, as those frames flex more, but you dont feel it in the body since it is isolated. We notice frame flex in our doors and stuff because all frames flex, but our bodies flex along with our frame. This is why the body fatigues along with the frame in ours. I wheel with toyotas and have seen the frame flex itself apart on one. The whole front cross member snapped off, and the only thing holding it on was the cage.

Of course, i wish our 'frame' was a little thicker metal to be able to weld more securely to it, and Im not saying the frame rails are as strong as a regular framed vehicle, but my experience has shown me just how strong our frames really are:

My DD has been out wheeling and belly flopped on a place called 'funny rocks', ill attach a pic if I can find it. (yes, I got stuck, and no, I dont wheel stock tires anymore. )

I have a parts jeep that was rolled, entire top chopped off. Wheel it around the yard. I have a cliff I can get it up on three wheels and have no sense the thing is going to twist in half or anything. We call it the death jeep and I hope to ressurect it one day with a 4 link in the rear, bobbed completely from about the rear doors back. That might start this next year. I have a vid somewhere Ive been meaning to post.

Originally Posted by Zacks98
Tape the 'sucking' part of a shotvac onto your sawzall end. By the blade. Almost no dust. I do that when Im working alone and cutting out fiberglass tubs.
That works! Thanks for the kick in the head (i should have though of that ). Will be trying it.

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troll hammer as in the band?
Heh, found out about them after I made the name up on a different forum, since I like pounding metal.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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love the convertible xj... lol
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ol'DixieJeep
love the convertible xj... lol
Yeah, thats what happens when someone gets carried away with chopping the rear! definatly dont get claustrophobic in it. Have a slight fear of opening my neck on the jagged steel around the edges, though.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mtparker97
wow congrats bro for having one of the best ideas ive heard in a long time.
Haha do I get cake?
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Zacks98
Haha do I get cake?
yeah ill swing it by on my way through OH in a couple weeks.... kidding of course but not about going through OH though.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mtparker97

yeah ill swing it by on my way through OH in a couple weeks.... kidding of course but not about going through OH though.
Ah really where ya going through at?
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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i had a 94 4 door i chopped and moved the rear gate forward up to the back of the rear seat, and i loved it, but untill i get another xj im not chopping my 2door xj, lol
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ol'DixieJeep
Upper seatbelt mounting point.
When I did my chop I lost the upper mounting point that you're refering to. I went out and found the correct size nut that fit the seatbelt bolt and molded it into the vertical bar in my cage right behind the seat. It's almost in the factory location. I'm not sure why since I'm taking it all back out in a week or so to put 5-point harnesses in the back.

It's rather difficult to see in the crappy picture but you can see where the vertical bar comes up almost exactly where the factory mount was.



No, I'm not finished with my chop yet. Still have lots to do. I entend to cut the entire back off of it. Link the back and stretch it a couple inches, then reconstruct the back into a bit of a bobbed, dovetailed, comp cut look. Then bolt on the 37s.

Yes, the guy standing in front of my Jeep is like 7 foot tall.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Zacks98
Ah really where ya going through at?
ill be coming from indiana to jeromesville. which is just east of mansfield and pretty close to ashland too. a little up north of you. visit a buddy that was in the Navy with me every year as long as im not deployed.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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thats what i planned on doing, was just trying to get other ideas... nice build btw
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