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From: Laurium, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
make some half doors. Then you can keep the tunes too. If those speakers even still work. mine don't...most of the time lol
How To Make Removable Half Doors - Jeep Cherokee - Part 1 - YouTube
How To Make Removable Half Doors - Jeep Cherokee - Part 1 - YouTube
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Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,226
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From: Laurium, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
I've actually watched that video last yr when I debated doing them... don't have the money to buy spare doors from the junk yard to cut up... or make tube doors... maybe in the future I will but atm my bills are alil high... more worried about my bad u joints I have to replace soon before I spend money on doors lol
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Joined: Feb 2012
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From: Southern Oregon
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Please tell me this is not what I think it is. FYI it's an oil dipstick from a 90 4.0 now I did do the steam cleaning yesterday as per instructions, meaning I did not dump 32 oz of water into the TB all at once. I also just got this back from my best friend after letting him borrow it for a couple months while he got his up and running, so it's a DD of sorts.
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CF Veteran
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,226
Likes: 11
From: Laurium, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Please tell me this is not what I think it is. FYI it's an oil dipstick from a 90 4.0 now I did do the steam cleaning yesterday as per instructions, meaning I did not dump 32 oz of water into the TB all at once. I also just got this back from my best friend after letting him borrow it for a couple months while he got his up and running, so it's a DD of sorts.
Herp Derp Jerp

Joined: Nov 2011
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
I've actually watched that video last yr when I debated doing them... don't have the money to buy spare doors from the junk yard to cut up... or make tube doors... maybe in the future I will but atm my bills are alil high... more worried about my bad u joints I have to replace soon before I spend money on doors lol
Please tell me this is not what I think it is. FYI it's an oil dipstick from a 90 4.0 now I did do the steam cleaning yesterday as per instructions, meaning I did not dump 32 oz of water into the TB all at once. I also just got this back from my best friend after letting him borrow it for a couple months while he got his up and running, so it's a DD of sorts.
One thing about the steam cleaning is that you really really REALLY should drive it hard afterwards. This boils out any moisture that has slipped past the rings, which, depending on the state your engine is in, could be significant.
Change the oil and monitor it.
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From: Southern Oregon
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I thought I had ran it hard after, but I'll start with the oil change before diving into the top end. Thanks for the heads up
Herp Derp Jerp

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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Renix heads aren't known for cracking. If you dumped a gallon of water into your engine, it's going to hold some. I wouldn't stress it unless you see that again.
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Joined: Mar 2012
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From: Quebec
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
cheers
now another question. in the past month the jeep has been overheating pretty easily in traffic and even when coasting at a regular speed.
it became really bad this weekend, peaking in the red line of the temp gauge. putting heat on blast made it cool down a little, but I was still concerned so I looked into the coolant reservoir only to find a small amount of brownish liquid. It's a 96, so I thought that was odd, still looked under the cap and also the dipstick, oil looks normal.
My thermostat was probably changed anywhere from a year to 2 years ago, that's when the last coolant "flush" was done, but I don't think it was more than emptying the radiator and filling it up again, so not a real flush.
My XJ stays in an interior garage most of the time (when I'm at home) and I didn't notice any leak.
Right now what I plan to do is flush the system 3-4 times with distilled water and the prestone liquid flush product to clean the inside. Once it becomes clear, I'll fill with 70/30 coolant/distilled water mix because of the 100% water that will be left in the system. Then I have ordered a new 16 psi radiator cap. Anything else I should do? I don't think my water pump is faulty, and the radiator also seems fine.
now another question. in the past month the jeep has been overheating pretty easily in traffic and even when coasting at a regular speed.
it became really bad this weekend, peaking in the red line of the temp gauge. putting heat on blast made it cool down a little, but I was still concerned so I looked into the coolant reservoir only to find a small amount of brownish liquid. It's a 96, so I thought that was odd, still looked under the cap and also the dipstick, oil looks normal.
My thermostat was probably changed anywhere from a year to 2 years ago, that's when the last coolant "flush" was done, but I don't think it was more than emptying the radiator and filling it up again, so not a real flush.
My XJ stays in an interior garage most of the time (when I'm at home) and I didn't notice any leak.
Right now what I plan to do is flush the system 3-4 times with distilled water and the prestone liquid flush product to clean the inside. Once it becomes clear, I'll fill with 70/30 coolant/distilled water mix because of the 100% water that will be left in the system. Then I have ordered a new 16 psi radiator cap. Anything else I should do? I don't think my water pump is faulty, and the radiator also seems fine.
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Joined: Aug 2015
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From: Laurium, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
cheers
now another question. in the past month the jeep has been overheating pretty easily in traffic and even when coasting at a regular speed.
it became really bad this weekend, peaking in the red line of the temp gauge. putting heat on blast made it cool down a little, but I was still concerned so I looked into the coolant reservoir only to find a small amount of brownish liquid. It's a 96, so I thought that was odd, still looked under the cap and also the dipstick, oil looks normal.
My thermostat was probably changed anywhere from a year to 2 years ago, that's when the last coolant "flush" was done, but I don't think it was more than emptying the radiator and filling it up again, so not a real flush.
My XJ stays in an interior garage most of the time (when I'm at home) and I didn't notice any leak.
Right now what I plan to do is flush the system 3-4 times with distilled water and the prestone liquid flush product to clean the inside. Once it becomes clear, I'll fill with 70/30 coolant/distilled water mix because of the 100% water that will be left in the system. Then I have ordered a new 16 psi radiator cap. Anything else I should do? I don't think my water pump is faulty, and the radiator also seems fine.
now another question. in the past month the jeep has been overheating pretty easily in traffic and even when coasting at a regular speed.
it became really bad this weekend, peaking in the red line of the temp gauge. putting heat on blast made it cool down a little, but I was still concerned so I looked into the coolant reservoir only to find a small amount of brownish liquid. It's a 96, so I thought that was odd, still looked under the cap and also the dipstick, oil looks normal.
My thermostat was probably changed anywhere from a year to 2 years ago, that's when the last coolant "flush" was done, but I don't think it was more than emptying the radiator and filling it up again, so not a real flush.
My XJ stays in an interior garage most of the time (when I'm at home) and I didn't notice any leak.
Right now what I plan to do is flush the system 3-4 times with distilled water and the prestone liquid flush product to clean the inside. Once it becomes clear, I'll fill with 70/30 coolant/distilled water mix because of the 100% water that will be left in the system. Then I have ordered a new 16 psi radiator cap. Anything else I should do? I don't think my water pump is faulty, and the radiator also seems fine.
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Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,024
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From: Quebec
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Is your auxiliary e-fan working? Especially in traffic and at slow speeds the mechanical fan is useless for keeping the engine cool. On my '99 it's easy to test by unplugging the coolant temp sensor while the engine is running and the e-fan will kick on after a few seconds(you get an OBD code too but that's easy to reset). Might be a '97+ thing though. There are lots of threads for troubleshooting the e-fan.
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Herp Derp Jerp

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 18,251
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
The relay may be crappy, however...
1996 uses an ECT sensor separate from the sending unit for the dash. The dash gauge's sending unit is located in the rear of the head. A wildly different reading between these units is not uncommon on older models. (1997+ uses the ECT for all purposes.)
Buy/borrow a little infrared laser thermometer gun and see what the actual temperature is at the thermostat housing. Canadian Tire has these on for $20 regularly, sometimes $15. Invaluable tool. Then you will know if you're ACTUALLY overheating.
As for the brown mess in the coolant bottle, this isn't "good" but is very typical of older vehicles with open cooling systems. You should do a proper flush, not drain-and-fill. You don't need to use distilled water the whole time, just make sure that the water that remains in the engine that gets mixed with coolant is free of minerals.
When was the last time the fan clutch was replaced? When the radiator gets really hot, your Jeep's fan should make it sound like a big truck with how much air it moves.
1996 uses an ECT sensor separate from the sending unit for the dash. The dash gauge's sending unit is located in the rear of the head. A wildly different reading between these units is not uncommon on older models. (1997+ uses the ECT for all purposes.)
Buy/borrow a little infrared laser thermometer gun and see what the actual temperature is at the thermostat housing. Canadian Tire has these on for $20 regularly, sometimes $15. Invaluable tool. Then you will know if you're ACTUALLY overheating.
As for the brown mess in the coolant bottle, this isn't "good" but is very typical of older vehicles with open cooling systems. You should do a proper flush, not drain-and-fill. You don't need to use distilled water the whole time, just make sure that the water that remains in the engine that gets mixed with coolant is free of minerals.
When was the last time the fan clutch was replaced? When the radiator gets really hot, your Jeep's fan should make it sound like a big truck with how much air it moves.
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Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,226
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From: Laurium, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0L
thank you for reminding me of this. the fan seems to kick on the first time it overheats, but once the temp drops down and the fan stops, from the small amount of diagnosis I made, it seems it never comes back on. I'm not 100% sure of this, but I know for a fact it kicks on sometimes, and others (like when I was in the red) it was NOT on. I wired it directly to the battery and the motor definitely works. The question is, what would cause this? The temps sensor is on the thermostat housing right?




