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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by XJwonders
everyone use XJ drag link and ZJ tie rod
oh, I thought I needed both
Old Jan 26, 2016 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Tie rod is fine. They go on XJ drag links all the time. As for the ZJ drag link, it looks pretty close to this photo of a brand new Moog DS1310...
maybe it's not bent, but etheir way, I'll just us my xj drag if that's what everyone else does.
Old Jan 26, 2016 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
maybe it's not bent, but etheir way, I'll just us my xj drag if that's what everyone else does.
The whole purpose of the upgrade is because the XJ's stock "tie rod" is actually two tiny-*** TREs with a long, hollow adjusting sleeve. The ZJ and XJ drag links are both cast, I think the ZJ one is like half an inch longer.
Old Jan 26, 2016 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
The whole purpose of the upgrade is because the XJ's stock "tie rod" is actually two tiny-*** TREs with a long, hollow adjusting sleeve. The ZJ and XJ drag links are both cast, I think the ZJ one is like half an inch longer.
cast? No it's drop forged
Old Jan 26, 2016 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by XJwonders
cast? No it's drop forged
Whatever the process is lol. To me, it's molten metal in a mold, not rolled up foil junk
Old Jan 26, 2016 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Whatever the process is lol. To me, it's molten metal in a mold, not rolled up foil junk
drop forging doesn't require molten steel.
Old Jan 26, 2016 | 07:00 PM
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Thanks guys, just finish installing the ZJ tie rod and it fit fine with the stock drag. Thanks again.
Old Jan 26, 2016 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
Thanks guys, just finish installing the ZJ tie rod and it fit fine with the stock drag. Thanks again.
u are welcome
Old Jan 26, 2016 | 09:27 PM
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Finally got a set of extended control arms (no idea what brand, they were on the parts Jeep). The bushings are SHOT though.

Can I use OEM style bushings or should I go with a kit like this or this?
Old Jan 26, 2016 | 09:34 PM
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Finally got a set of extended control arms (no idea what brand, they were on the parts Jeep). The bushings are SHOT though.

Can I use OEM style bushings or should I go with a kit like this or this?
Well... what bushings actually FIT in it I think would be a good starting point
Old Jan 26, 2016 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Well... what bushings actually FIT in it I think would be a good starting point
lol.. well yeah. Even if I knew that though, there's no specifications on these bushings to know if they're the right size or not
Old Jan 27, 2016 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Basslicks
lol.. well yeah. Even if I knew that though, there's no specifications on these bushings to know if they're the right size or not
Time for a micrometer. And this handy PDF I found while searching Google. Moog K3131 are the factory LCA bushings http://aftermarket.federalmogul.com/...0dimension.pdf
Old Jan 27, 2016 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by salad
Time for a micrometer. And this handy PDF I found while searching Google. Moog K3131 are the factory LCA bushings http://aftermarket.federalmogul.com/...0dimension.pdf
Sweeeet... yeah I'll save that. I have a set of calipers, I'll measure them tonight once they're all the way out. Only unhooked the frame side end on one of them so far and ran out of time.

That chart helps though, definitely.

I guess my real curiosity was towards whether or not the "clevite style" with the rubber bushing vulcanized to the outter metal sleeve would work as long as they are the proper diameter.

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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 03:32 PM
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Actually have a question about a Cherokee...lol Thoughts: https://up.craigslist.org/cto/5415853384.html ?
Yeah 216k is a lot of miles, how many can you get out of an AW4 and is it pricey to have them rebuilt? Not even the rockers look rusted to me. Only thing I don't like is the silly hitch but it might just be a temporary vehicle.

Edit: also I have a v8 ZJ I know the tie rods and drag link are good things to swap(if I decide to make this my keeper), what else can swap?

Edit: Edit:
1. ZJ gas tank skid
2. ZJ Alternator
3. Brake booster
4. Sway bar, does this really help much?

Can the exchange happen the other direction as well so that the ZJ is still driveable to the junkyard?(If I go that route...) Although I guess I could rent a dolly and tow it with the XJ...One of the junkyards is only a few miles from my house...if they'll even give me anything for it...

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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by XJwonders
did you lubricate the caliper bolts
Yes I did



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