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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by odgreen89on35s
If you are gonna drop 2k spend a lil more and get a stroker
Strokers wear faster internally, and $2k is at the very limit of my budget. I wasn't exactly planning on dropping money for a new motor less than two months after buying the Jeep, and I'm still paying on it.
Old Sep 10, 2013 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Looking for some input here. My YJ threw a rod on Friday, and I need a new motor. It's a '93 fuel injected 4.0L HO, so it ain't nothin' y'all ain't familiar with. My options are to drop in a used motor for around $600 or buy a reman for around $2k.

Can't decide if it's worth that much extra for a 3yr warranty.
well, think about it. $600 vs $2000.

You can get a new $600 engine every year for 3 years and still be on top after your warranty is over.. Of course if you pay someone a few hundred bucks to put it in then it may be the same.... If your $600 motor fails..
If it has good compression numbers then I would go for it...
Old Sep 10, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by karl4x4
well, think about it. $600 vs $2000.

You can get a new $600 engine every year for 3 years and still be on top after your warranty is over.. Of course if you pay someone a few hundred bucks to put it in then it may be the same.... If your $600 motor fails..
If it has good compression numbers then I would go for it...
That's what I'm leaning toward. I'll be doing the install with help from friends, but the downtime in the event of another failure is what worries me. I can't miss work, period. And it can cause very stressful situations like I was in this past weekend. ...But with that said, there's no guarantee a reman'ed motor won't fail. Even with a warranty, I'd still be left stranded.

I'm thinking used. Talking it out helps.
Old Sep 10, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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Well in that case.... used! Lol
Old Sep 10, 2013 | 10:40 PM
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It's a 4.0L. You're a Jeep guy. Why would you spend $2k on some **** you should spend on more important stuff? Like green paint for your steering stabilizer and K&N decals

Originally Posted by karl4x4
well, think about it. $600 vs $2000.

You can get a new $600 engine every year for 3 years and still be on top after your warranty is over.. Of course if you pay someone a few hundred bucks to put it in then it may be the same.... If your $600 motor fails..
If it has good compression numbers then I would go for it...
Can't beat that logic! I wonder if it'll blow... I'd like to see pics of some guy trying to transport a 4.0L in the back of a Camaro lol
Old Sep 10, 2013 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitepeej
Whenever I am driving my jeep after it has sat in one place for several hours at a time, my right rear wheel locks up. What could this be? I had a mechanic check the rotators and they said there is still 60% remaining.
Rotors? 60% remaining? What about the pads?

Often the brakes just accumulate rust. Yes it can be fast, normally I don't notice any unless it's rained. Your brakes may need a good cleaning and everything checked properly.
Old Sep 10, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Rotors? 60% remaining? What about the pads?

Often the brakes just accumulate rust. Yes it can be fast, normally I don't notice any unless it's rained. Your brakes may need a good cleaning and everything checked properly.
I love driving the day after a rain, cause then my brakes actually stop me in a reasonable amount of distance for once.
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 02:11 AM
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PLEASE bare with me, 'cause this is kind of a long story.

Alright... I'm pretty sure I've seen this question before, but I can't find it anywhere now. I think lack of sleep is getting to my search skills.

My jeep was running perfectly with no issues whatsoever. I took it out wheeling on saturday with a LOT of water crossings... I'm talking up over the rockers coming into the cab - okay for me that's deep. Anyway, the motor never sucked in water, never stalled, I never turned it off while it was in water and on the way home everything was driving like normal. I came home, parked it in the garage with the doors open and the dome fuse pulled to keep the interior lights from coming on.

The next day I started it up to pull it out of the garage and let it air out in the sun... started up instantly with no issues... just like it always did. Later on in the day started it up to move it back into the garage... again - no issues.

Then we come to Monday... started up fine, but the check engine light was on and the idle seems a little high when out of gear and wants to push the jeep when in gear... I put it into neutral when going down a hill and normally the rpm's will go down to 1100-1200 but this time they hovered around 1500-1600. "okay, whatever the O2 sensor probably went bad... it's a Bosch anyway" I thought.

The we come to today... I went to start it up to move it back out of the garage into the sunlight and rather than the starter just turning it over a couple of times and it starting right up - it sat there and cranked... and cranked...and cranked. I turned it off, then turned the key to run to listen for the fuel pump to spool up and it did... so I tried to start it again and got the same thing, but I noticed when I released the key back to the run position - the fuel pump spooled up again. So I let the pump spool up again, waited a second or two and turned the key to start and it finally cranked up after stuttering about it...

It's always been a crank-right-up type of motor so I'm really wondering what's up with it especially since it was fine on the way home and seemingly fine the next day.

Oh, I also noticed the temp guage hasn't been getting up to operating temp lately except when I was wheeling, and the electric fan is coming on before it ever gets to operating temp even with the A/C off... HELP!
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Basslicks
PLEASE bare with me, 'cause this is kind of a long story.

Alright... I'm pretty sure I've seen this question before, but I can't find it anywhere now. I think lack of sleep is getting to my search skills.

My jeep was running perfectly with no issues whatsoever. I took it out wheeling on saturday with a LOT of water crossings... I'm talking up over the rockers coming into the cab - okay for me that's deep. Anyway, the motor never sucked in water, never stalled, I never turned it off while it was in water and on the way home everything was driving like normal. I came home, parked it in the garage with the doors open and the dome fuse pulled to keep the interior lights from coming on.

The next day I started it up to pull it out of the garage and let it air out in the sun... started up instantly with no issues... just like it always did. Later on in the day started it up to move it back into the garage... again - no issues.

Then we come to Monday... started up fine, but the check engine light was on and the idle seems a little high when out of gear and wants to push the jeep when in gear... I put it into neutral when going down a hill and normally the rpm's will go down to 1100-1200 but this time they hovered around 1500-1600. "okay, whatever the O2 sensor probably went bad... it's a Bosch anyway" I thought.

The we come to today... I went to start it up to move it back out of the garage into the sunlight and rather than the starter just turning it over a couple of times and it starting right up - it sat there and cranked... and cranked...and cranked. I turned it off, then turned the key to run to listen for the fuel pump to spool up and it did... so I tried to start it again and got the same thing, but I noticed when I released the key back to the run position - the fuel pump spooled up again. So I let the pump spool up again, waited a second or two and turned the key to start and it finally cranked up after stuttering about it...

It's always been a crank-right-up type of motor so I'm really wondering what's up with it especially since it was fine on the way home and seemingly fine the next day.

Oh, I also noticed the temp guage hasn't been getting up to operating temp lately except when I was wheeling, and the electric fan is coming on before it ever gets to operating temp even with the A/C off... HELP!
It is a long winded question but we are still missing some information.
How are your fluid levels? All of them. Any contamination of the oils? It didn't stall, but that doesn't mean crap didn't get into it.
Water may have splashed everywhere inside. I know all connectors should be waterproof but water may have seeped in overnight and causing shorts. check your distributor cap. water can get in there as well and sit where the cam position sensor is.
I would check the relays under the hood and everything around them. Your best friend would be pressurized air anywhere water could sit.

Check those out and get back.

good luck
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by karl4x4
It is a long winded question but we are still missing some information.
How are your fluid levels? All of them. Any contamination of the oils? It didn't stall, but that doesn't mean crap didn't get into it.
Water may have splashed everywhere inside. I know all connectors should be waterproof but water may have seeped in overnight and causing shorts. check your distributor cap. water can get in there as well and sit where the cam position sensor is.
I would check the relays under the hood and everything around them. Your best friend would be pressurized air anywhere water could sit.

Check those out and get back.

good luck
Fluids are good... levels are good, first thing I thought of was that water got in the oil, but I checked it yesterday and it had no trace of water in it. I checked the transmission fluid and it was fine as well. I'll check the relays and electronics and get back.
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Basslicks
PLEASE bare with me, 'cause this is kind of a long story.

Alright... I'm pretty sure I've seen this question before, but I can't find it anywhere now. I think lack of sleep is getting to my search skills.

My jeep was running perfectly with no issues whatsoever. I took it out wheeling on saturday with a LOT of water crossings... I'm talking up over the rockers coming into the cab - okay for me that's deep. Anyway, the motor never sucked in water, never stalled, I never turned it off while it was in water and on the way home everything was driving like normal. I came home, parked it in the garage with the doors open and the dome fuse pulled to keep the interior lights from coming on.

The next day I started it up to pull it out of the garage and let it air out in the sun... started up instantly with no issues... just like it always did. Later on in the day started it up to move it back into the garage... again - no issues.

Then we come to Monday... started up fine, but the check engine light was on and the idle seems a little high when out of gear and wants to push the jeep when in gear... I put it into neutral when going down a hill and normally the rpm's will go down to 1100-1200 but this time they hovered around 1500-1600. "okay, whatever the O2 sensor probably went bad... it's a Bosch anyway" I thought.

The we come to today... I went to start it up to move it back out of the garage into the sunlight and rather than the starter just turning it over a couple of times and it starting right up - it sat there and cranked... and cranked...and cranked. I turned it off, then turned the key to run to listen for the fuel pump to spool up and it did... so I tried to start it again and got the same thing, but I noticed when I released the key back to the run position - the fuel pump spooled up again. So I let the pump spool up again, waited a second or two and turned the key to start and it finally cranked up after stuttering about it...

It's always been a crank-right-up type of motor so I'm really wondering what's up with it especially since it was fine on the way home and seemingly fine the next day.

Oh, I also noticed the temp guage hasn't been getting up to operating temp lately except when I was wheeling, and the electric fan is coming on before it ever gets to operating temp even with the A/C off... HELP!
Its possible the iac or map or a sensor may have gotten wet. You leave the hood open to let it cook in the sun? Have you had issues with it since. What year was yours again. I take it no codes.

Although im curious about your temp guage not getting up to 210. May be staying open the thermostat
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by salad
It's a 4.0L. You're a Jeep guy. Why would you spend $2k on some **** you should spend on more important stuff? Like green paint for your steering stabilizer and K&N decals



Can't beat that logic! I wonder if it'll blow... I'd like to see pics of some guy trying to transport a 4.0L in the back of a Camaro lol
Even better, I'm borrowing a friend's '00 VW Jetta TDI sedan.
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown

Even better, I'm borrowing a friend's '00 VW Jetta TDI sedan.
Ah now we have a third option. Steal friends TDI to put in the YJ.
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DieselD

Ah now we have a third option. Steal friends TDI to put in the YJ.
Not with 248,000 miles on it, bad glow plugs, and an oil leak lol
Old Sep 11, 2013 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Even better, I'm borrowing a friend's
'00 VW Jetta TDI sedan.
They can do some serious towing though. Guy hauling a 1700 lb 6v53T, he still got 38 MPG...



Originally Posted by DieselD
Ah now we have a third option. Steal friends TDI to put in the YJ.
x90783945728934

Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Not with 248,000 miles on it, bad glow plugs, and an oil leak lol
Meeeehhh it's a YJ. How good of a shape could it possibly be in? Engine to match the Jeep



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