Tried to remove the other rear shock. Failed.
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All of the tools known to man mean nothing when they are the in the hands of an idiot.
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Please make sure there is a live clock in the background.
And make sure you hold up every tool you use.
Good luck!!
Salad, thanks for your help in all my questions, so don't you go changing!
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From: Justin, TEXAS
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[QUOTE=BimmerJeeper;2721600]
So your point is that you use $1000 worth of tools to work on your XJ. Umm, ok.
To me, the XJ is the hardest vehicle to work on.
EVERY. SINGLE. BOLT. needs to be torched or cut off.
That's why XJ work is not for weekend hobbyists, but hardcore gearheads who grew up on this stuff (with a serious tool collection)
Of course, YMMV.
That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Less than a year ago I bought my xj. I had no idea where to even add oil! I was 17 at the time and had never wrenched on a vehicle before. It was not long after that and I was doing the whole cooling system, suspension lifts, electrical, and injectors. I even work on my friends trucks now. All of this was done with a tool set older than me that probably costed 100-200$. I DIDDNT grow up around this stuff. My dad has been in Afghanistan for over 6 years now. My help was CHEROKEEFORUM.COM and NOT AFRAID to get a little greasy and bloody. Just google whatever you need and dive into it. Don't post up stupid problems that only you can fix, bimmer.
Go get greasy and bloody or sell you XJ. It's that simple
So your point is that you use $1000 worth of tools to work on your XJ. Umm, ok.
To me, the XJ is the hardest vehicle to work on.
EVERY. SINGLE. BOLT. needs to be torched or cut off.
That's why XJ work is not for weekend hobbyists, but hardcore gearheads who grew up on this stuff (with a serious tool collection)
Of course, YMMV.
Go get greasy and bloody or sell you XJ. It's that simple
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I can't believe I've went through nine pages of this and kept reading it.
It's like driving by an accident. While I only have a few posts here I've been working on my Jeeps since I bought my new Comanche in 88. I've needed nothing more then what's in my garage or in the wife's closet to get things working. This thread needs to die..
Installing a lift tomorrow with nothing more then a butter knife... LOL!
It's like driving by an accident. While I only have a few posts here I've been working on my Jeeps since I bought my new Comanche in 88. I've needed nothing more then what's in my garage or in the wife's closet to get things working. This thread needs to die..
Installing a lift tomorrow with nothing more then a butter knife... LOL!
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I am planning to do that in a few months.
That insanely rusted water inlet pipe gives me nightmares.
How did yours come off?
The other thing is those quick connect fittings on the tranny lines.
How did you manage them? Did you hacksaw your tranny lines like a lot of people here do?
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I can't push the shock to the side if you can't remove the shock from the lower bolt.
This weekend, I bought a pickle fork for my air compressor, so I will use that to try to pry off the shock.
I also bought pry bar set, so I will try them, since the long pipe didn't work.
Since the upper bolts are rounded, I guess I can hack them up.
To all the "only $200 worth of tools" folks out there,
here are all the tools I've purchased JUST to try these rear shocks:
$300 compressor
$20 air chisel
$10 chisels
$50 impact wrench
$10 impact extension bars
$100 impact sockets
$50 pry bars
$10 pickle fork
$50 Dremel
LOL, OVER $600 worth of tools JUST for this rear shock job.
One thing I tell ya, boy, this auto mechanics hobby is more expensive than golfing!
The local stealership quoted $233 for rear shocks (including parts!)
I think this is why no one fixes their cars and everyone leases brand new cars.
I'm in for $700 including parts, and only have 1 shock installed (and an easy 40 hours of research and shopping time invested)
It's way cheaper to get your car fixed at the dealer while sipping a latte and driving a brand new loaner car.
Yes, $600 vs $233. The list is right there in front of your face.
This weekend, I bought a pickle fork for my air compressor, so I will use that to try to pry off the shock.
I also bought pry bar set, so I will try them, since the long pipe didn't work.
Since the upper bolts are rounded, I guess I can hack them up.
To all the "only $200 worth of tools" folks out there,
here are all the tools I've purchased JUST to try these rear shocks:
$300 compressor
$20 air chisel
$10 chisels
$50 impact wrench
$10 impact extension bars
$100 impact sockets
$50 pry bars
$10 pickle fork
$50 Dremel
LOL, OVER $600 worth of tools JUST for this rear shock job.
One thing I tell ya, boy, this auto mechanics hobby is more expensive than golfing!
The local stealership quoted $233 for rear shocks (including parts!)
I think this is why no one fixes their cars and everyone leases brand new cars.
I'm in for $700 including parts, and only have 1 shock installed (and an easy 40 hours of research and shopping time invested)
It's way cheaper to get your car fixed at the dealer while sipping a latte and driving a brand new loaner car.
Yes, $600 vs $233. The list is right there in front of your face.
Quality jack 460-100
2 or 4 quality jack stands, the bigger the better - $50-100
Socket set - $200 for a really good big set
Various extensions - $50.
PB Blaster/WD40/Liquid Wrench - Any time you plan to do something start soaking the bolts a few days before. Hit it one to two times a day leading up to the work day.
I've put on lifts, dropped trannys, swapped engines, and done routine maintenance on many cars with just that and a driveway. You can buy all the tools you want but it isn't really necessary. I'm no mater technician or an internet liar so take with a grain of salt.
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From: Justin, TEXAS
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[QUOTE=BimmerJeeper;2721853]
Was the cooling system challenging?
I am planning to do that in a few months.
That insanely rusted water inlet pipe gives me nightmares.
How did yours come off?
The other thing is those quick connect fittings on the tranny lines.
How did you manage them? Did you hacksaw your tranny lines like a lot of people here do?
Did thermostat, water pump and radiator all in one night. Probably took 3 hours
Nothing on my jeep is rusty really...the water inlet tube(think my renix is different then yours) was a little hard to get off but nothing unmanageable. My trans line clips actually where VERY easy to undo. Just a bit of twisting is all. The cooling system is so much easier if you just do all of it at one time.
Just dive into it man. I think your problem is you over think your tasks
Was the cooling system challenging?
I am planning to do that in a few months.
That insanely rusted water inlet pipe gives me nightmares.
How did yours come off?
The other thing is those quick connect fittings on the tranny lines.
How did you manage them? Did you hacksaw your tranny lines like a lot of people here do?
Nothing on my jeep is rusty really...the water inlet tube(think my renix is different then yours) was a little hard to get off but nothing unmanageable. My trans line clips actually where VERY easy to undo. Just a bit of twisting is all. The cooling system is so much easier if you just do all of it at one time.
Just dive into it man. I think your problem is you over think your tasks
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Did thermostat, water pump and radiator all in one night. Probably took 3 hours
Nothing on my jeep is rusty really...the water inlet tube(think my renix is different then yours) was a little hard to get off but nothing unmanageable. My trans line clips actually where VERY easy to undo. Just a bit of twisting is all. The cooling system is so much easier if you just do all of it at one time.
Just dive into it man. I think your problem is you over think your tasks
Ok, so you don't have the same water inlet pipe as I might have.
You see how rusted solid mine is?
You're saying all you did was just twist apart the tranny lines?
Then why do auto stores sell those quick release things?
And how exactly do you "twist" them? Where is there play? These are steel lines, not rubber.
I have read dozens of posts here saying those are a total nightmare that need to be sawed in half.
Then I have no idea how you put it back together. Welder, I guess. Yay, more expensive tools!
Did thermostat, water pump and radiator all in one night. Probably took 3 hours
Nothing on my jeep is rusty really...the water inlet tube(think my renix is different then yours) was a little hard to get off but nothing unmanageable. My trans line clips actually where VERY easy to undo. Just a bit of twisting is all. The cooling system is so much easier if you just do all of it at one time.
Just dive into it man. I think your problem is you over think your tasks
You see how rusted solid mine is?
You're saying all you did was just twist apart the tranny lines?
Then why do auto stores sell those quick release things?
And how exactly do you "twist" them? Where is there play? These are steel lines, not rubber.
I have read dozens of posts here saying those are a total nightmare that need to be sawed in half.
Then I have no idea how you put it back together. Welder, I guess. Yay, more expensive tools!
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[QUOTE=884x4;2721860]
Did thermostat, water pump and radiator all in one night. Probably took 3 hours
Nothing on my jeep is rusty really...the water inlet tube(think my renix is different then yours) was a little hard to get off but nothing unmanageable. My trans line clips actually where VERY easy to undo. Just a bit of twisting is all. The cooling system is so much easier if you just do all of it at one time.
Just dive into it man. I think your problem is you over think your tasks
I'm confused......are we talking rear shocks or cooling systems in this thread? Pretty sure ya got the second topic started here: https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/rep...-tools-185502/
Just get your hands dirty and jump in.
Did thermostat, water pump and radiator all in one night. Probably took 3 hours
Nothing on my jeep is rusty really...the water inlet tube(think my renix is different then yours) was a little hard to get off but nothing unmanageable. My trans line clips actually where VERY easy to undo. Just a bit of twisting is all. The cooling system is so much easier if you just do all of it at one time.
Just dive into it man. I think your problem is you over think your tasks
Just get your hands dirty and jump in.
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From: Justin, TEXAS
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[QUOTE=BimmerJeeper;2721862]
Ok, so you don't have the same water inlet pipe as I might have.
You see how rusted solid mine is?
You're saying all you did was just twist apart the tranny lines?
Then why do auto stores sell those quick release things?
And how exactly do you "twist" them? Where is there play? These are steel lines, not rubber.
I have read dozens of posts here saying those are a total nightmare that need to be sawed in half.
Then I have no idea how you put it back together. Welder, I guess. Yay, more expensive tools!
You would not weld those...you could replace them all together and skip the clips. And mine actually just with the right amount of wiggling(not really twisting) and pulling they popped right out. I would assume they sell them because I'm sure they break when people try to get them off. I may have gotten lucky idk. Just go for it man
Ok, so you don't have the same water inlet pipe as I might have.
You see how rusted solid mine is?
You're saying all you did was just twist apart the tranny lines?
Then why do auto stores sell those quick release things?
And how exactly do you "twist" them? Where is there play? These are steel lines, not rubber.
I have read dozens of posts here saying those are a total nightmare that need to be sawed in half.
Then I have no idea how you put it back together. Welder, I guess. Yay, more expensive tools!
