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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
My thoughts exactly. Stick with someone who does it on their own, like Wix.
What do you mean exactly? Does Wix dissect all their competitors filters, or is it run by one man without corporate influences?
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RenixHeep
What do you mean exactly? Does Wix dissect all their competitors filters, or is it run by one man without corporate influences?
I'm positive Wix dissects other manufacturer's filters.

What I'm getting at is Wix makes their filters and stands behind them.
Those other brands can be made to any spec the buyer requests.

A buddy of mine at Chrysler told me this. He had to do a project involving oil filters. They wanted to standardize and condense the number of filters down to just a few. Chrysler, like other car companies, buys/contracts for filter suppliers.

The Mopar is a good filter, he told me. Good anti-drainback valve. Will be fine for the recommended oil change intervals.
I asked him what he uses on his cars and he said Wix.

Here's what my buddy at Napa told me about filters.

The Napa Silver, made by Wix is good for 4,000 mile oil changes, the Gold for 8,000 mile oil changes, and the new Platinum for extended intervals involving synthetic oils. The price varies accordingly.
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
I'm positive Wix dissects other manufacturer's filters.

What I'm getting at is Wix makes their filters and stands behind them.
Those other brands can be made to any spec the buyer requests.

A buddy of mine at Chrysler told me this. He had to do a project involving oil filters. They wanted to standardize and condense the number of filters down to just a few. Chrysler, like other car companies, buys/contracts for filter suppliers.

The Mopar is a good filter, he told me. Good anti-drainback valve. Will be fine for the recommended oil change intervals.
I asked him what he uses on his cars and he said Wix.

Here's what my buddy at Napa told me about filters.

The Napa Silver, made by Wix is good for 4,000 mile oil changes, the Gold for 8,000 mile oil changes, and the new Platinum for extended intervals involving synthetic oils. The price varies accordingly.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the info sir, I didn't even know napa filter's were made by Wix. I learn something new from you every day almost. The Jeep is due for an oil change here very soon, Wix is going in , along with $400 worth of other parts, and all new guts for my driver side front door. 2.5 years of owning this Jeep, and I've yet to be able to lock the doors, or open my door from the outside. Priorities suck

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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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I have been using the purolator pure 1 for a ford 5.0 for years without a problem. I go 7000 miles between changes with Mobil 1. The 5.0 filter gives almost a full quart extra capacity too. I forget the part number but if you look for any year fox body mustang 5.0 that's the one to use. I may try a NAPA platinum next time around as I can't find Wix anywhere local.
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Fourtrax
I have been using the purolator pure 1 for a ford 5.0 for years without a problem. I go 7000 miles between changes with Mobil 1. The 5.0 filter gives almost a full quart extra capacity too. I forget the part number but if you look for any year fox body mustang 5.0 that's the one to use. I may try a NAPA platinum next time around as I can't find Wix anywhere local.
as cruiser54 stated earlier, just because there is no problem evident doesn't mean its doing a good job.. you can have internal friction causing severe wear and never know it until.................

case and point, you can put a shoddy fuel filter on most diesels and you will notice how badly made it is after a few thousand miles, maybe less.. You will lose power significantly when it collapses, this is tried and true.. cut it open and you will see just how poorly its made..

I have the last Fram I will ever use on my diesel now, I'm changing the oil today and will cut open the oil filter for inspection and report my findings..

naturally a Wix that's on the shelf here will be replacing it.. and in another 10k miles I will cut open the Wix and compare the two.
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rooster
opps sorry about low oil pressure at warm idle.... happened with the fram and the stp filter...
i have this now with a purolator gold

of course i switched (on last oil change) 5 quarts of syn blend and 1 quart of MMO to cure some tick...

next oil change i will be back to 6 quarts oil...but i want to stick with syn blend if i can for the winter...

i always run napa golds or purolator gold filters....no issues ever
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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I deleted my oil filter by installing a roundabout hose in its place. No more oil filter worries.

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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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Like I explained to a friend who insists on running Fram filters because they are "OK, and I never had a problem"..

It's not a matter of brand loyalty with me... It's that you can get a MUCH higher quality oil filter for the same price range.
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Radi
I for one salute FRAM for their recycling efforts. Particularly where all of their used toilet paper tubes go.
Now THAT was funny!
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Choosing a filter depends on what your objective is. On a sound engine with good oil pressure a high filtration will trap smaller micron particles at the sacrifice of dropping oil pressure a little bit. If you are trying to increase oil pressure you need a less restrictive filter....you need to search for the manufacturers beta ratio to determine this.
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RenixHeep

What do you mean exactly? Does Wix dissect all their competitors filters, or is it run by one man without corporate influences?
I am a auto parts supplier, I have been for 20 years. I have opened up every oil filter I have been able to get my hands on. WIX, which is a Napa Gold, and Partsmaster, which is a Napa Silver, Car Quest, which is also Wix, are the best oil filters on the market for the money. The only difference between the Gold and Silver, is that the Gold uses a silicone anti-drain back valve versus a rubber. The silicone last longer without getting hard. The Gold also has more pleats, which translates into more filtering media. There are some decent filters out there, with the exception of Fram which I have included in the picture below. Tin instead of a spring, cardboard instead of a gasket, and plastic for a drain back.


List of Junk oil Filters for your jeep 4.0-image-4095744499.jpg



List of Junk oil Filters for your jeep 4.0-image-217606417.jpg
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 01:26 AM
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Purolator for being sold at walmart (the one by me sells wix too) isnt a horrible filter. If I had fram Purolator and Wix to chose from id chose wix. But Purolator isnt to far behind them... id trust them for 3k mi. Dont know about extending that but lets try to get a pic of a purolator and a wix of the same price range split in half for comparison?
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pajuis
I am a auto parts supplier, I have been for 20 years. I have opened up every oil filter I have been able to get my hands on. WIX, which is a Napa Gold, and Partsmaster, which is a Napa Silver, Car Quest, which is also Wix, are the best oil filters on the market for the money. The only difference between the Gold and Silver, is that the Gold uses a silicone anti-drain back valve versus a rubber. The silicone last longer without getting hard. The Gold also has more pleats, which translates into more filtering media. There are some decent filters out there, with the exception of Fram which I have included in the picture below. Tin instead of a spring, cardboard instead of a gasket, and plastic for a drain back.


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its real experience like this that i trust. that is why i only run wix from now on...51515 FTW!
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 02:00 AM
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I love it how people trust a $3.50 oil filter to protect an engine worth $5,000-10,000.
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Old Dec 14, 2012 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by pajuis
I am a auto parts supplier, I have been for 20 years. I have opened up every oil filter I have been able to get my hands on. WIX, which is a Napa Gold, and Partsmaster, which is a Napa Silver, Car Quest, which is also Wix, are the best oil filters on the market for the money. The only difference between the Gold and Silver, is that the Gold uses a silicone anti-drain back valve versus a rubber. The silicone last longer without getting hard. The Gold also has more pleats, which translates into more filtering media. There are some decent filters out there, with the exception of Fram which I have included in the picture below. Tin instead of a spring, cardboard instead of a gasket, and plastic for a drain back.


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Thank you very much!!

So, if you change your oil frequently, like every 3,000 miles, you could use a Napa Silver. Normal intervals, Gold, and extended intervals, Platinum. Correct?
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