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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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grabbed a cluster from a 92. it looks like he had done some swapping himself..
gas, speedo, tach, and battery all work. I need to know which sensors to install to make oil and temp work please
where can I get some? how can I get the right ones?

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the oil numbers dont look correct



and neither does the temperature. pretty sure xj's run at like 220*

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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 05:45 PM
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i have had no experience with cluster swaps but cherokees should not run over 200 im lucky to have one of the few cherokees with no problems cooling wise, mine stays at 180 constantly and has never over heated
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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really?? the one in my white xj went up to 260* and always stayed at 220* (the middle number)
I wonder how that happened... however! it should still go about 125. undoubtably
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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Looks like you found yourself a metric cluster. It's not oil temp, it's oil pressure, in your case, measured in BAR, not PSI. Same with your temp sensor, that's ºcelsius, not ºfahrenheit, I believe.

Fortunately, I think the sending unit is the same... I'm using a cheap-o Duralast from ChinaZone (PN: PS133) but most will recommend the OEM from the dealer.
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 05:58 PM
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Metric or imperial, you're gonna need gas soon
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by F1Addict
Looks like you found yourself a metric cluster. It's not oil temp, it's oil pressure, in your case, measured in BAR, not PSI. Same with your temp sensor, that's ºcelsius, not ºfahrenheit, I believe.

Fortunately, I think the sending unit is the same... I'm using a cheap-o Duralast from ChinaZone (PN: PS133) but most will recommend the OEM from the dealer.
yes oil pressure. that was typed really fast as I was not home at the time haha
and thats a bummer. but as long as the needles are pointing straight up I guess it doesnt matter anyway. I'll swoop some gauge faces later

I'll order some OEM senders with my other purchases on monday thanks for the info
how do I describe them? just say senders for oil and temp on my model xj and they'll have the correct part #'s?
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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You need an oil pressure (and maybe water temperature?) sending unit for a '93 XJ.

There are also switches, those won't work, they're for the idiot lights.
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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You need to buy sending units for the model year that a re designed to be used WITH GAUGES.

When you go to order/buy there should be an option to select the sending units for gauges.

Oh and learn the METRIC SYSTEM ..... that cluster would confuse the devil out of me.
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
really?? the one in my white xj went up to 260* and always stayed at 220* (the middle number)
I wonder how that happened... however! it should still go about 125. undoubtably
We have three Cherokees.

All gauges go to 260.

All three run somewhere around the middle ... 210 +/-

In fact I never knew the op temp of my 1996 until I did a cluster swap.

I was worried about the temp being high, but there are no signs of overheat so I figure it's 'normal' for that XJ ... or more likely the sending unit calibration is not exact.
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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Here's my special gauge decoder but don't tell anyone 'cuz it's a secret... This works for both metric and imperial measurements.

Red = bad
Middle = good (most times)
0 = bad (most times)

Again, secret, so shhhhh.
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by F1Addict
Here's my special gauge decoder but don't tell anyone 'cuz it's a secret... This works for both metric and imperial measurements.

Red = bad
Middle = good (most times)
0 = bad (most times)

Again, secret, so shhhhh.
ahah. hes a funnyyyyy

just converted 125 to imperical. it equals 257*F
so I was right about the 220ish. I'll still probably order some gauge faces that are to my liking in the furture
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KD3NE
You need to buy sending units for the model year that a re designed to be used WITH GAUGES.

When you go to order/buy there should be an option to select the sending units for gauges.

Oh and learn the METRIC SYSTEM ..... that cluster would confuse the devil out of me.
thank you I'm ordering a bunch of junk on monday so I'll ****** those as well
might pull some OEM faces as soon as my JY has more than 1 xj. ha
or swoop these if I can put up with the white..
http://www.whitegauges.net/products/...ce-Gauges.html
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Swapped mine out last weekend...

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Oil Pressure = 0-40-80 (PSI)
Coolant Temp = 100 - 210 - 260
Fuel = Empty

So your conversion of 125º C to 257º F is accurate.
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