CF saved me $ 1900 , thanks
so 2 weeks ago my aw4 wouldnt shift back to 1st & i get cel w/ 2 codes atc unit & shift solenoid b ,i search here & all points to needing soleniod replacemt in the tranny. i discuss this w/a friend who is a real general mechanic he suggests i go see a shop he sends AT work to who he considered honest & fair. so i give it a go because they would do a free diagnostic. i tell the guy at the tranny shop my problem & my hopes it not major because tranny works fine when i shift manually, i even mention maybe its just solenoids. then he gets defensive w/ well it could be that or this or blah , blah ,blah. next day he calls me w/ his findings that all electrical is good to the tranny so its in the tranny, then he says you need a complete rebuild. that will be $2200 parts & labor.thanks i'll come get my jeep & think it over. i buy & install the 3 solenoids , a filter & 4 qts of atf. total cost $275 for parts, my 2 hrs labor. now it shifts perfectly thru all gears up & down, cel went off, all is good. for all i know they may have done the same thing @ the tranny shop & charged me $2200.thanks agian for the info, these place is great.
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Hey..far out maaan. It sort of sounds like tranny shops must have allot of overhead or something! The PO of my Jeep spent thousands on mine...and I can clearly see one of the torque converter bolts is in at an angle! (guess they had air tools.)
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That sucks... Did you call the shop that did the work?
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how you gonna just scam that shop out of 1900$....
lol, good deal man, when you see a mechanic get defensive about something its usually because he has something to hide...or is scamming you
lol, good deal man, when you see a mechanic get defensive about something its usually because he has something to hide...or is scamming you
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Wow, nice savings. I sincerely hope that the $2200 was a FULL rebuild. Obviously not necessary as you proved but I doubt they were trying to rip you off quite that much lol. Remember, lots of markup on all those new parts! 
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yes it was for a complete rebuild, but i never thought it needed that done since the jeep only has 128 k miles, i think his approach to the problem was just, if i do a rebuild then i know i fixed whatever the problem is. at the very least he could have offered to drop the pan & check a little bit into my theory of the problem, which i would have gladly paid for this work.
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I would mail them a copy of your receipts, for your parts. (Write on it your labor time.) Stapled to their estimate. And write across the bottom. A big thank you. Due to your estimate, I tackled the problem my self. You folks saved me $1900. Would I recommend your place of business to any Friends or family. No! No! No! No! Have a good day!
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Originally Posted by 91 limited owner
I would mail them a copy of your receipts, for your parts. (Write on it your labor time.) Stapled to their estimate. And write across the bottom. A big thank you. Due to your estimate, I tackled the problem my self. You folks saved me $1900. Would I recommend your place of business to any Friends or family. No! No! No! No! Have a good day!
Here is a big secret:
95%-99% of car mechanics don't know anything about transmissions except how to replace them.
They don't even know how to adjust bands in some Chrysler transmissions.
Most owners of Chrysler vans with 3 speed transmissions pay for transmission rebuild/replacement when solenoids go bad (20 min replacement, solenoid pack is outside transmission, $90 from ebay)
Chrysler did great job designing transmission with solenoid pack outside.
Honda is smarter, Honda has solenoids outside transmission and it takes 5 min to replace bad one, they are not all together like Chrysler solenoid pack.
95%-99% of car mechanics don't know anything about transmissions except how to replace them.
They don't even know how to adjust bands in some Chrysler transmissions.
Most owners of Chrysler vans with 3 speed transmissions pay for transmission rebuild/replacement when solenoids go bad (20 min replacement, solenoid pack is outside transmission, $90 from ebay)
Chrysler did great job designing transmission with solenoid pack outside.
Honda is smarter, Honda has solenoids outside transmission and it takes 5 min to replace bad one, they are not all together like Chrysler solenoid pack.
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Naw..they did that in the late 90's, (for/to the PO), and I just spotted it a few years ago. It's held for over 150K, I don't even want to breathe on it!
Yea, ^. No harm in politely pointing out to them that all you needed was a solenoid, on the slim chance they might do better next time.
Yea, ^. No harm in politely pointing out to them that all you needed was a solenoid, on the slim chance they might do better next time.
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