Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Rattling when first start up

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 24, 2017 | 12:26 PM
  #1  
XJIrish4x4's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,382
Likes: 4
Model: Cherokee
Default Rattling when first start up

So I discovered a loud rattle noise upon startup of my XJ. I will not assume I know the culprit but it defiantly sounds like muffler, or inside exhaust. However when I get under it while running I can't seem to pinpoint location. Doesn't appear to be a knock though I'm not ruling that out yet. When its warmed up seems to quiet down though and smooth out. When I shut it off at the point when engine dies it almost sounds like another slight rattle. Could this be something drastic like lower motor problems. Camshaft bearing or something like that? I'll keep looking I hope its just heat shield or exhaust doing this but figured I ask and I know I didn't provide much information. If you have any ideas for me to try I would be happy to. If it helps its a 1989 and she starts hard too. Mind you I have not done a full tune up yet. I have everything to do it just have no time right now. Sometimes it cranks over longer than expected to finally fire up. Timing?
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2017 | 12:46 PM
  #2  
fb97xj1's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 3,038
Likes: 338
From: PA
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

If it sounds like its coming from underneath, check the heatshield. The tack welds can fail and cause one hell of a rattle (usually at low rpm, but not all the time). It could even be the cat starting to go. It could even be a loose and/or cracked flexplate. Check the bolts to make sure they are tight. Check the transfer case linkage, anything that moves, really. If it sounds like its coming from under the hood, lean in close to the distributor. The distributor bearing will wear out and start to wobble over time. Remove the cap and check the shaft for wobble. It shouldnt move at all. the pulleys can make funny noises, too. Even the water pump.

Without being there, its hard to say what it is. Buy yourself a stethoscope and start poking around. You can get them for 5-10 bucks at most parts stores. Or you can use the end of a screwdriver or even some rubber hose. Put one end to your ear and the other to whatever it is youre listening to.
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2017 | 04:23 PM
  #3  
XJIrish4x4's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,382
Likes: 4
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by fb97xj1
If it sounds like its coming from underneath, check the heatshield. The tack welds can fail and cause one hell of a rattle (usually at low rpm, but not all the time). It could even be the cat starting to go. It could even be a loose and/or cracked flexplate. Check the bolts to make sure they are tight. Check the transfer case linkage, anything that moves, really. If it sounds like its coming from under the hood, lean in close to the distributor. The distributor bearing will wear out and start to wobble over time. Remove the cap and check the shaft for wobble. It shouldnt move at all. the pulleys can make funny noises, too. Even the water pump.

Without being there, its hard to say what it is. Buy yourself a stethoscope and start poking around. You can get them for 5-10 bucks at most parts stores. Or you can use the end of a screwdriver or even some rubber hose. Put one end to your ear and the other to whatever it is youre listening to.
Thanks for the advice I'll keep poking around and maybe I can get a good video sound clip to hear it. Not sure it will help you guys identify it but where is the heat shield I should be looking at?
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2017 | 04:24 PM
  #4  
XJIrish4x4's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,382
Likes: 4
Model: Cherokee
Default

One of my thoughts was the cat too.
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2017 | 10:05 PM
  #5  
Turbo X_J's Avatar
CF Veteran
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 8,567
Likes: 20
From: ☼ Blackhole Sun
Year: My Jeep is a GMC
Default

Rotted exhaust isolator.
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2017 | 02:43 PM
  #6  
XJIrish4x4's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,382
Likes: 4
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
Rotted exhaust isolator.
Where would I find this?
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2017 | 04:44 PM
  #7  
Turbo X_J's Avatar
CF Veteran
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 8,567
Likes: 20
From: ☼ Blackhole Sun
Year: My Jeep is a GMC
Default

(not my pic)
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2017 | 07:42 PM
  #8  
XJIrish4x4's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,382
Likes: 4
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
(not my pic)
Thanks right after I asked I took a look on a google search and came up with same photo lol. I'll look on my XJ tomorrow see what I find.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2017 | 08:34 PM
  #9  
XJIrish4x4's Avatar
Thread Starter
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,382
Likes: 4
Model: Cherokee
Default

So when I got home today I climbed under XJ to see if mine had the bracket exhaust isolator and mine didn't look like the one in photo. Exhaust was hooked up to a bracket near the transmission cross member but no signs of a rubber bushing. Plus when I started it didn't appear to be coming from that area. Still on the search for the noise seems closer to engine though and again clears up mostly when warm.

Then when it is shut off right at the point when its off it rattles then silence.

Any ways I'll keep looking just figured I would update that nothing new
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2017 | 08:39 PM
  #10  
Bugout4x4's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4,481
Likes: 18
From: Arizona
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by XJIrish4x4
So when I got home today I climbed under XJ to see if mine had the bracket exhaust isolator and mine didn't look like the one in photo. Exhaust was hooked up to a bracket near the transmission cross member but no signs of a rubber bushing. Plus when I started it didn't appear to be coming from that area. Still on the search for the noise seems closer to engine though and again clears up mostly when warm.

Then when it is shut off right at the point when its off it rattles then silence.

Any ways I'll keep looking just figured I would update that nothing new
Pull the dust cover and check your flexplate and torque converter to see if those are nuts are loose. It's a known common problem.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2017 | 09:00 PM
  #11  
Turbo X_J's Avatar
CF Veteran
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 8,567
Likes: 20
From: ☼ Blackhole Sun
Year: My Jeep is a GMC
Default

Bang around with a rubber mallet down there to find out whats shaking.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2017 | 09:38 PM
  #12  
xjnm's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 227
Likes: 10
From: New Mexico
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0 L I6
Default

I have the same symptoms and have not had time to look for it yet so if you could post what you find that would be awesome!
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2017 | 06:59 AM
  #13  
cruiser54's Avatar
::CF Moderator::
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 43,971
Likes: 1,578
From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Feel free to use this:
Attached Images  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
joshplemons
Jeep Builds
5
May 12, 2019 12:20 PM
hoff2k5
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
19
Nov 29, 2011 09:45 PM
89XJDan
Introductions
16
Aug 5, 2011 04:37 PM
LoganJeep
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
3
Oct 14, 2008 12:49 PM
Jsny1010
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
9
Oct 11, 2008 09:05 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:57 PM.