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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 94XjSport94
Especially on smaller, sharp, loose rocks. My favorite place is all rocky hills and trails but its a TON of loose stuff that's eats your tires up.
We have a bunch of sharp granite here in northern utah some of its smooth and polished other spots its sharp and eats tires. Southern utah just sands down the tires. The rock back east in the midatlantic eat tires
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 07:52 AM
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i wheel new england, i run km2s i have a solid mix of everything out here depending where i go and have never yelled at my tires
.. the bfg all around out performs that swampers in my experiance.. the swamper is only good in the harshest terrain. a bfg km2 or something like that will serve you better
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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I ran 36x14.5 TSL Radials on one tons for a few years. Got about 45,000 miles out of them before the tread was about 1/16th inch. The last 5,000 miles they wore very quickly. On an XJ, they will last about twice as long as they do on a full size. YMMV
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 03:40 PM
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No way in hell would swampers last 80k. Even 45k is pushing it...
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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No way in hell would swampers last 80k. Even 45k is pushing it...
X2 I only got 40k from the tsl radials on my YJ and I am **** about air pressure rotating and balancing and alignments
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by muddytrck18
what about getting the tires sipped. I know I will make them chunk off in the rocks but it should help in wet conditions
Last year I siped the hell out of my old bias TSLs. Only slipped in the wet when I was trying to slip them, and they were absolutely unstoppable in snow, even two feet of fresh snow at street pressure they just laughed and plowed right on through.
The half tread I got them with only lasted about 10 months, though I never rotated and there was no way to balance them.
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mr white
No way in hell would swampers last 80k. Even 45k is pushing it...
I only got 15K miles on the TSLs on my full size and they were bald when I pulled them. I got more than twice the mileage out of them on the XJ. There are a lot of factors involved (alignment, weight, braking force, air pressures, etc) hence the YMMV.
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfajita

Last year I siped the hell out of my old bias TSLs. Only slipped in the wet when I was trying to slip them, and they were absolutely unstoppable in snow, even two feet of fresh snow at street pressure they just laughed and plowed right on through.
The half tread I got them with only lasted about 10 months, though I never rotated and there was no way to balance them.
I balanced mine. Put metal bbs in them. Followed a tire size chart. That's what some tractor trailers do
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by armymedic120
I balanced mine. Put metal bbs in them. Followed a tire size chart. That's what some tractor trailers do
They were 15 years old. They had so much lateral runout I thought all 4 rims were severely bent. And like any bias ply Interco tire, they were not round.
I don't think it would have been worth even trying to balance them
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 12:12 AM
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just for the record.. has anyone ever said " my swampers are an awesome all around tire on my daily"?
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by alloutperform
just for the record.. has anyone ever said " my swampers are an awesome all around tire on my daily"?
In a word, no. However, they weren't built as a street tire or an all around tire. I've been running bias ply TSLs for over a year now and I like them for the terrain I run. I'm getting ready to groove mine though so they hook up better on the rocks. Mine are off road only and I run another set of tires on the street. I never ran the radials, so can't comment on them.
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by alloutperform
just for the record.. has anyone ever said " my swampers are an awesome all around tire on my daily"?
Mine were grooved and siped bias, and other than the horrible ride, poor life, very uneven wear, and being smaller yet sucking down more fuel than my 33" claws they were awesome. No sarcasm either. I'd be upset at the short life if I paid more than 250 for them on wheels that I still have. But I will never run bias tires on a DD again, even though never having to worry about road debris was awesome (I ran over boards full of nails many times with no damage at all)
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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I like the road noise from my bias ply swampers.heck I think it puts my daughter to sleep sometimes. they shake in the morning when they are cold. about a mile on the freeway they are fine. offroad they are awesome and how many tires can you put a plug in the sidewall and still run them everyday, or in my case 2 plugs in a sidewall been that way for years and holding strong. I will be replacing them with another set of bias swampers.
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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJLI
they are ancient tires. pretty much any modern mud terrain is a better choice. there are plenty that will disagree but whatevs.
this. hell the radials even have a solid center tread with no voids. every time i have seen them in action i have been unimpressed.
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
this. hell the radials even have a solid center tread with no voids. every time i have seen them in action i have been unimpressed.

Depends on a lot. Some of the narrower smaller swampers hook up pretty good on the trail. The wider ones seem to suck. LOL I agree the center tread is pretty bad. Its basically a mud bog tire. That they are good at.

Trail tire? not for the most part in my opinion. Unless you live in the swamps.

Problem is a bald swamper often times can hook up better than most mt's in the areas I wheel. An MT won't even traverse a lot of this stuff.

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