Super swampers vs others
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Super swampers vs others
I am just wondering what the advantages are of the other tires over super swampers... I am planning my tire selection and was always under the impression that TSL's were the gold standard, so to speak... Just wondering your thoughts.. thanks guys
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I always thought that Super Swampers were the "tires to get" for mudding and general offroad... Alot of guys on here seem to prefer KM2 style tires with smaller lugs... I know that there must be reasons, i just dont know what they are... I would say price, but the KM2 tires are pretty expensive...
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Swampers are called swampers for a reason. They aren't a very good daily driver/highway tire but off road, they kill the competition. I used to have a friend with a burban on 40 inch swampers. He could go places in 2wd, I had to be in 4l to get through.
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what terrain are we talking about here? rocks? or literally the swamp
in my experience swampers suck. they haven't changed the design much since they were released back in the 80's, I've only seen good things out of the Irok stickies and 43" SXII's. anything smaller than a 38" tire and they seem to flat out fail. they measure small and don't balance well. the only pluses are decent sidewall strength and bias construction.
if you're looking at tires in the 35" range I'd go ahead and get a MT tire. lots of the new MT's can hang with swampers, if not out perform. especially in the rocks from my experience
in my experience swampers suck. they haven't changed the design much since they were released back in the 80's, I've only seen good things out of the Irok stickies and 43" SXII's. anything smaller than a 38" tire and they seem to flat out fail. they measure small and don't balance well. the only pluses are decent sidewall strength and bias construction.
if you're looking at tires in the 35" range I'd go ahead and get a MT tire. lots of the new MT's can hang with swampers, if not out perform. especially in the rocks from my experience
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what terrain are we talking about here? rocks? or literally the swamp
in my experience swampers suck. they haven't changed the design much since they were released back in the 80's, I've only seen good things out of the Irok stickies and 43" SXII's. anything smaller than a 38" tire and they seem to flat out fail. they measure small and don't balance well. the only pluses are decent sidewall strength and bias construction.
if you're looking at tires in the 35" range I'd go ahead and get a MT tire. lots of the new MT's can hang with swampers, if not out perform. especially in the rocks from my experience
in my experience swampers suck. they haven't changed the design much since they were released back in the 80's, I've only seen good things out of the Irok stickies and 43" SXII's. anything smaller than a 38" tire and they seem to flat out fail. they measure small and don't balance well. the only pluses are decent sidewall strength and bias construction.
if you're looking at tires in the 35" range I'd go ahead and get a MT tire. lots of the new MT's can hang with swampers, if not out perform. especially in the rocks from my experience
He is right it all depends on where you plan on using them at or on I should say.
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Ive had a few different sets over the years...
Thornbirds are worthless and should not ever be bought for anything.
TSLs are great in most stuff and tuff. BUT they are terrible on ice and dont last very long...
LTBS are just a more aggressive TSL
Boggers are great in the mud... thats it.
All of those tires lasted about 20,000 miles TOPS. They also all had vibrations and were terrible on ice or when there is water on the road but awesome in the mud.
I would take a set of any of the tires I have ran since over them.
Thornbirds are worthless and should not ever be bought for anything.
TSLs are great in most stuff and tuff. BUT they are terrible on ice and dont last very long...
LTBS are just a more aggressive TSL
Boggers are great in the mud... thats it.
All of those tires lasted about 20,000 miles TOPS. They also all had vibrations and were terrible on ice or when there is water on the road but awesome in the mud.
I would take a set of any of the tires I have ran since over them.
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Ive had a few different sets over the years...
Thornbirds are worthless and should not ever be bought for anything.
TSLs are great in most stuff and tuff. BUT they are terrible on ice and dont last very long...
LTBS are just a more aggressive TSL
Boggers are great in the mud... thats it.
All of those tires lasted about 20,000 miles TOPS. They also all had vibrations and were terrible on ice or when there is water on the road but awesome in the mud.
I would take a set of any of the tires I have ran since over them.
Thornbirds are worthless and should not ever be bought for anything.
TSLs are great in most stuff and tuff. BUT they are terrible on ice and dont last very long...
LTBS are just a more aggressive TSL
Boggers are great in the mud... thats it.
All of those tires lasted about 20,000 miles TOPS. They also all had vibrations and were terrible on ice or when there is water on the road but awesome in the mud.
I would take a set of any of the tires I have ran since over them.
Even after Offroading with them I have a ton of other tires I would choose over them. For the price you can buy something less aggressive in a mt and go more places at least where I go which is rocks and dirt and little mud. To date my favorite tires are mtr kevlars.
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For mud and a 33-35, Id stay get yourself a set of goodyear Kevlars. I had those when I was on 33s. Stupid traction on the PA swamp. Great sidewall for rocks too. If you DD your jeep, don't get Intercos. Stick with an M/T.
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What tires to run depends a lot where you live,Mud and off road can be a lot different state to state,So a tire working great here in Kentucky might suck in lets say Florida.So talk to your local off roaders see what tires they run and which tires they say stay away from.
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I've run 33" TSLs and now 35" LTBs. My jeep is trailered and offroad only, 30 miles on road a year tops. No complaints and I run rocks, muddy Midwest trails, with lots of roots and stumps. They are excellent offroad tires. You need to run them very low psi to get good sidewalk flex. I typically run under 5 psi with beadlocks.
Lots of guys groove them to get better carcass flex. Boggers have no lateral stability, but can be grooved. Lots of guys run grooved Boggers in the rear with TSL's up front. It's a very effective setup. Swampers have been around a long time, with very little changes to the tread pattern. It's an effective pattern and many tires have been built around it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I've run many other tires, but for a strictly offroad rig, I'd go with some form of a TSL.
Lots of guys groove them to get better carcass flex. Boggers have no lateral stability, but can be grooved. Lots of guys run grooved Boggers in the rear with TSL's up front. It's a very effective setup. Swampers have been around a long time, with very little changes to the tread pattern. It's an effective pattern and many tires have been built around it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I've run many other tires, but for a strictly offroad rig, I'd go with some form of a TSL.
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