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Old Aug 6, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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Default Stroker Question- roller rockers or no?

Hey guys.. month or two Im going to be buying this:
http://www.golenengineservice.com/en...eep-long-block

I dont have the time or the know-how to properly build one myself and the 3 year unlimited mile warranty is nice. (Just had to get that out of the way haha)

My question is this... I know Roller Rockers can make a difference in larger more powerful engines as far as durability at higher RPMS and some people say they give you a little more HP (in this case probably only like 2-3) but do you think it is worth 400 extra dollars to get them installed in an I6? I would prefer to have the cash for intake/exhaust and the other stuff Ill need but if it would make it more durable, Im all for it. What do you think?

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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ianf406
Hey guys.. month or two Im going to be buying this:
http://www.golenengineservice.com/en...eep-long-block

I dont have the time or the know-how to properly build one myself and the 3 year unlimited mile warranty is nice. (Just had to get that out of the way haha)

My question is this... I know Roller Rockers can make a difference in larger more powerful engines as far as durability at higher RPMS and some people say they give you a little more HP (in this case probably only like 2-3) but do you think it is worth 400 extra dollars to get them installed in an I6? I would prefer to have the cash for intake/exhaust and the other stuff Ill need but if it would make it more durable, Im all for it. What do you think?

Thanks!
What does Golen have to say? I would ask them to see what their thoughts are. Maybe they can install them at a lower cost as they build the motor?

bpas328xi has harland sharp 1.6 roller rockers and he could probably better explain the benefits.
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 07:03 AM
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Yep. Ask Chad Golen. He's done a ton of dyno work on the strokers and has also given me great prices on any parts I've purchased from him.
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 09:47 AM
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Okay will do. Was not sure if he would shoot me straight or if he would try to sell. From what I have read he is a great guy but thought ide ask first. Thanks!
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 02:05 PM
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Okay will do. Was not sure if he would shoot me straight or if he would try to sell. From what I have read he is a great guy but thought ide ask first. Thanks!
He's been nothing but straight with me.
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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Alright thanks man! Hey quick question. You have had strokers before correct? What options are out there besides a open cold air intake for getting enough cfm to the motor? My current system is rated at 500cfm and stock is like 375 i think. Im planning on going with a 68mm throttle body but no sure how I am going to get enough air to it without loosing the higher/ somewhat water proof intake. Spectre sells a larger sealed intake but I dont know if I can pull enough through the cowl. Any Ideas?
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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Alright thanks man! Hey quick question. You have had strokers before correct? What options are out there besides a open cold air intake for getting enough cfm to the motor? My current system is rated at 500cfm and stock is like 375 i think. Im planning on going with a 68mm throttle body but no sure how I am going to get enough air to it without loosing the higher/ somewhat water proof intake. Spectre sells a larger sealed intake but I dont know if I can pull enough through the cowl. Any Ideas?
You'll have plenty of air with a 62mm throttle body. You gonna be revving it to 5,000 RPM regularly, and for sustained periods of time?
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 05:04 PM
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You'll have plenty of air with a 62mm throttle body. You gonna be revving it to 5,000 RPM regularly, and for sustained periods of time?
No I am not. Just reading on the jeepstrokers page the past few months and that was what some/most were running so I figured I'de go that way too. I guess I might be over thinking it... I just want it to run right if I am dumping the cash into it. I dont want it to be starved in any RPM range- though I wont be that high hardly ever if ever. Would you recommend going with a 62 instead? The price difference is negligible. Thank you for the help.
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 05:10 PM
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No I am not. Just reading on the jeepstrokers page the past few months and that was what some/most were running so I figured I'de go that way too. I guess I might be over thinking it... I just want it to run right if I am dumping the cash into it. I dont want it to be starved in any RPM range- though I wont be that high hardly ever if ever. Would you recommend going with a 62 instead? The price difference is negligible. Thank you for the help.
62 will be fine. My stroker is sitting on the stand with a 60mm Renix throttle body on it. I'm not worried at all. sizing the injectors is pretty easy and you should be good to go.
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 05:10 PM
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If I had the extra money I might do it, but for what you are doing, probably never notice it..
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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I did a little math after finding the formula (the formula to calculate 100% volumetric efficiency is-(Max RPM/2)*Displacement)/1728) which makes the stock xj 4.0 want around 366 CFM for 100%. A 60mm flows at about 377cfm (from what I can find online) and a 62 flows at 415 CFM at 100%. I guess Ill ask Golen what the displacement for that motor is and go from there. If it needs more than 450 (counting for dirty filter at times) I guess Ill go from there. Thank you for your help. Got my mind going to do the math myself haha
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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Most street engine will do at best 85% volume efficieny....
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 06:40 PM
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Most street engine will do at best 85% volume efficieny....
Gotcha. Just gotta find out what the displacement is on the motor so at least I have the capability of being in the correct range. In any case I think the ~500 with what I have (plus new TB) should be enough. Thanks again guys!

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