Long arm or short arm
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From: City of Trees, CA
Year: 93 2 door
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nah. that's a good deal though. I'll go and find my own hook up. been meaning to ask you what is the width of your waggy front axle? do you have spacers on the 8.8 or something? can you stuff 5.13's in there?
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From: +34° 25' 35.67", -81° 21' 12.04"
Year: 1993
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Crappy picture but you get the point.
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From: Wrightstown, NJ
Year: 1986 Comanche
Engine: Chevy 350
Just read over the 3 link part of your build thread. That's exactly what I'm planning on doing. I've already got HDO stiffeners on and some spare 2x6 in the garage. Need to get around to cutting some side mounting feet and planning on sleeving the rails for the mounting holes.
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From: California
Year: 1989
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OK, I understand why "long arm is always better" over short, but I still have a question. Seems they become rock sliders regardless if we like it or not. Is the a problem or when you hear the bashing and know it's your long arms you just tell yourself to ignore it.
My consideration: IRO 5.5" long arm kit with 33s. On road use is not important.
My consideration: IRO 5.5" long arm kit with 33s. On road use is not important.
I would/wanna go with clayton. Serious and I think satang do the 2x2 square also with removal section. And then piece together the rest of the parts, sometimes you spend more, sometimes less but you get what you want. Bds is nice too but pricey as well.
Bds came me a quote a couple years ago of 1700 for the 6.5 long arm and that was a killer deal but didn't have money for it and they usually run around 2200/2500
Bds came me a quote a couple years ago of 1700 for the 6.5 long arm and that was a killer deal but didn't have money for it and they usually run around 2200/2500
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From: California
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
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Agreed. My concern is more of damaging them rather than getting hung-up. My limited experience with 32" or 33" tires is the bottom getting beat-up as the front tires roll off rocks. And not just once in a while but pretty often.
If its say 1/4" wall dom with a 2" outer diameter (most longarm setups run this size id say) You have absolutely nothing to worry about.
Only on rigs with heavy axles, and big, heavy tires getting pounded on in the rocks I see long links made of that tubing turn into a banana after a while.
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From: California
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
So buy a kit eith a good warranty.
Warranty:
- Clayton = Lifetime including bent or broken arm replacement.
- Rubicon Express = Lifetime including bent or broken arm replacement.
- T&T Customs = None due to the nature of the use, but there is a vague statement about making a judgement on warranty claims.
- Iron Rock = Lifetime including bent or broken arm replacement.
- Rough Country = Lifetime but there are big "buts" about normal wear.
- Serious Offroad = Lifetime including bent or broken arm replacement.
- BDS = Lifetime including bent or broken arm replacement.
- Rusty's = Lifetime but doesn't mention arms specifically.
I'm sure you're right. I know nothing about their strength. Thanks for the info.
Last edited by McCaffrey; Aug 1, 2012 at 04:04 PM.
I think you are underestimating the strength of most longarm setups.
If its say 1/4" wall dom with a 2" outer diameter (most longarm setups run this size id say) You have absolutely nothing to worry about.
Only on rigs with heavy axles, and big, heavy tires getting pounded on in the rocks I see long links made of that tubing turn into a banana after a while.
If its say 1/4" wall dom with a 2" outer diameter (most longarm setups run this size id say) You have absolutely nothing to worry about.
Only on rigs with heavy axles, and big, heavy tires getting pounded on in the rocks I see long links made of that tubing turn into a banana after a while.
Companies like t&t rusty's and rough country used thinner D. O. M. in order to facilitate the manufacturing process. Trying to bend. 250" wall D.O.M. is darn near impossible.
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From: California
Year: 1989
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The IRO appear to have a bend in them. This kind of freaks me out too. Although they state 2" x 5/16" tubes.
Last edited by McCaffrey; Aug 1, 2012 at 01:06 PM.
Now thats dissapointing. Never actually checked the thickness of others, just assumed they werent total idiots.



