D44/9" combo
Okay so im the new guy and have been trying tog et as much information on this topic as i can. From my knowledge it seems like the d44 9 combo is a pretty tough durable build. I have 35s now was thinking of going 37s or 38s at the max. With an 8inch rustys lift. Honestly were do i even start? I found a d44 with upper and lower control arm mounts and shock mounts gussed and what not for about 500 assuming its just the housing. But i need more information on this topic as ive read so much idek what to think hahaha
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what's the 44 out of? if it's from a bronco (popular 44/9 combo), they would have cast wedges and radius arms. not saying that's no good for an xj (i have a set in the shop myself), but that setup would be your only choice with that axle.
if the 44 is from a different truck, and not ford, then it would have steel tubes and good to weld to.
if the 44 is from a different truck, and not ford, then it would have steel tubes and good to weld to.
what's the 44 out of? if it's from a bronco (popular 44/9 combo), they would have cast wedges and radius arms. not saying that's no good for an xj (i have a set in the shop myself), but that setup would be your only choice with that axle.
if the 44 is from a different truck, and not ford, then it would have steel tubes and good to weld to.
if the 44 is from a different truck, and not ford, then it would have steel tubes and good to weld to.
This is what ive found on the web.
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Not all the front Ford 44s have cast in wedges. If you check the tubes, the non cast wedges have an obvious weld. As far as the rest, spring pads welded on the rear and it is ready to at least bolt in. The front is going to take some fabricating. You will need to weld on brackets for the suspension arms. Personally I prefer a three link long arm for this, but four link is doable. You will not be able to use stock track bar so you will have to fabricate that also. It will be a balancing act for the proper 5° castor angle and drive line angle unless you are going to cut the welds on the Cs and adjust the angle.
Not all the front Ford 44s have cast in wedges. If you check the tubes, the non cast wedges have an obvious weld. As far as the rest, spring pads welded on the rear and it is ready to at least bolt in. The front is going to take some fabricating. You will need to weld on brackets for the suspension arms. Personally I prefer a three link long arm for this, but four link is doable. You will not be able to use stock track bar so you will have to fabricate that also. It will be a balancing act for the proper 5° castor angle and drive line angle unless you are going to cut the welds on the Cs and adjust the angle.
I'm assuming i have a 4 link now? This all entirely knew to me. And fabricating some brackers to get all the arms to work seems doable for me. Now would starting off with something like the picture above work? It has an option to add upper and lower control arm mounts. But like you said i like how it can pretty much be bolted up whoch is what i was looking for. Doing some fab work is no big deal to an extent haha
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I'm assuming i have a 4 link now? This all entirely knew to me. And fabricating some brackers to get all the arms to work seems doable for me. Now would starting off with something like the picture above work? It has an option to add upper and lower control arm mounts. But like you said i like how it can pretty much be bolted up whoch is what i was looking for. Doing some fab work is no big deal to an extent haha
Dude.....................not to be a downer and all, but if you have to ask if you have a 4 link now, then making brackets for a suspension system is probably not within your skill set at this time.
There's more to it than just 'making some brackets'.
Do some research and learn before you tackle such things, it'll most likely save you from a lot of heartache later on.
Based on your other post, follows the advice given...DO SOME RESEARCH and plan things out. Learn how & what to do, and then do it properly.
I saw nothing that indicated what kind of skills you have other than you are fixing your other car now. You'd be far better off learning how to do this stuff yourself, than paying someone else to do it for you.
Not trying to dull your plans, just want ya to take some time and research and learn.......
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Do some research. Can you weld and good? You don't want to be driving down the road and have a weld fail. F250 D44/9 or 60 are the ideal axles to swap for that combo. The F250 used leaf springs so it would just require grinding off the perches. On the idea, why do you want to go so tall? If you're going on rocks try to keep it at most 6.5"s of lift for stability, you can clear 37s on 4.5" with trimming and bumpstops.
This is also my forst ever 4x4 anything. Ive always had fwd cars. Hence not understanding what all your lingo means exactly. And i am doing research and not getting the answers im lookiing for besides everyone just telling me to read and research everything. The only reason i started this crap to get some knowledge i apparently cant seem to find elsewhere in the web
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