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Model: Cherokee
Originally Posted by Anthony'90XJ
I just bought some TSL Super Swamper Boggers for my rig. Can anyone tell me about the lifespan of these tires? I use my XJ probably 2 to 3 days a week with about 1 off road day a month. Thanks!!
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Joined: Mar 2012
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Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L H.O I6
Backspacing is a measurement of how deep the wheel is. Simply put, the number tells where the wheel's bolt holes are relative to the wheel's width. A lower backspacing number means the mounting point (where the lugnuts attach to the vehicle) is further in, like a deep dish rim. Higher BS means the mounting point is closer to the outer edge of the wheel.
You can use those with your tires. Those wheels are the same size as your stock wheels, but they will give your tires a wider stance due to the lower backspacing. $100 is a great price for 4 if nothing is wrong with them.
You can use those with your tires. Those wheels are the same size as your stock wheels, but they will give your tires a wider stance due to the lower backspacing. $100 is a great price for 4 if nothing is wrong with them.
Thanks for the responses, really appreciate it, shed a lot more light on da subject.
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Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 95
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From: Pasadena, Ca.
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5L 4-cyl.
Recommendations for ON-ROAD rubber for my 1990???
While my 1990 base model is 4WD I have no plans for off-roading. I'm using the Cherokee for hauling furniture and things for my business and am on a mix of city/suburban streets and Los Angeles freeways. So snow, mud, sand, etc, don't enter my equation -- but rain and road grease does.
Right now the XJ has Futura Scramber A/P rubber all around. P215/75R15. I think they're Pep Boys' in house brand. Lots of tread left but they're old and starting to crack. (The XJ was left outside in the Southern California sun 24/7 by the previous owner.)
I'm looking for STOPPING POWER first and foremost since I don't find the Jeep's brakes very reassuring. (Made a panic stop the other day when someone cut me off and I must have skidded 30 feet. It did stop straight, though.)
Behind STOPPING, my next box to check is LEAST AMOUNT OF ROAD NOISE. After that, WEAR LIFE. Then COST. (Okay, cost is probably equal to road noise.)
Looking for the cushiest, car-like ride. The noise and feel of the Futuras are actually pretty good -- other than that pesky stopping issue.
Also, any reason to go up or down from the P215/75 size?
For financial reasons, I switched the rubber on my 1992 Nissan 300ZX from the amazing Goodyear Eagle F1 to an equivalent FALKEN tire and was very, very impressed. While the handling wasn't nearly the slot-car experience of the Goodies, the Falkens wore 3 times longer than the Goodies without any additional road noise. Wonder if anyone has personal experience with a specific model of FALKEN that would be best for the XJ and my needs stated above. But I'm open to any brand...
All opinions welcome.
Thanks in advance.
CJ
Right now the XJ has Futura Scramber A/P rubber all around. P215/75R15. I think they're Pep Boys' in house brand. Lots of tread left but they're old and starting to crack. (The XJ was left outside in the Southern California sun 24/7 by the previous owner.)
I'm looking for STOPPING POWER first and foremost since I don't find the Jeep's brakes very reassuring. (Made a panic stop the other day when someone cut me off and I must have skidded 30 feet. It did stop straight, though.)
Behind STOPPING, my next box to check is LEAST AMOUNT OF ROAD NOISE. After that, WEAR LIFE. Then COST. (Okay, cost is probably equal to road noise.)
Looking for the cushiest, car-like ride. The noise and feel of the Futuras are actually pretty good -- other than that pesky stopping issue.
Also, any reason to go up or down from the P215/75 size?
For financial reasons, I switched the rubber on my 1992 Nissan 300ZX from the amazing Goodyear Eagle F1 to an equivalent FALKEN tire and was very, very impressed. While the handling wasn't nearly the slot-car experience of the Goodies, the Falkens wore 3 times longer than the Goodies without any additional road noise. Wonder if anyone has personal experience with a specific model of FALKEN that would be best for the XJ and my needs stated above. But I'm open to any brand...
All opinions welcome.
Thanks in advance.
CJ
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,164
Likes: 1
From: Warren, Pa
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Originally Posted by CJG
While my 1990 base model is 4WD I have no plans for off-roading. I'm using the Cherokee for hauling furniture and things for my business and am on a mix of city/suburban streets and Los Angeles freeways. So snow, mud, sand, etc, don't enter my equation -- but rain and road grease does.
Right now the XJ has Futura Scramber A/P rubber all around. P215/75R15. I think they're Pep Boys' in house brand. Lots of tread left but they're old and starting to crack. (The XJ was left outside in the Southern California sun 24/7 by the previous owner.)
I'm looking for STOPPING POWER first and foremost since I don't find the Jeep's brakes very reassuring. (Made a panic stop the other day when someone cut me off and I must have skidded 30 feet. It did stop straight, though.)
Behind STOPPING, my next box to check is LEAST AMOUNT OF ROAD NOISE. After that, WEAR LIFE. Then COST. (Okay, cost is probably equal to road noise.)
Looking for the cushiest, car-like ride. The noise and feel of the Futuras are actually pretty good -- other than that pesky stopping issue.
Also, any reason to go up or down from the P215/75 size?
For financial reasons, I switched the rubber on my 1992 Nissan 300ZX from the amazing Goodyear Eagle F1 to an equivalent FALKEN tire and was very, very impressed. While the handling wasn't nearly the slot-car experience of the Goodies, the Falkens wore 3 times longer than the Goodies without any additional road noise. Wonder if anyone has personal experience with a specific model of FALKEN that would be best for the XJ and my needs stated above. But I'm open to any brand...
All opinions welcome.
Thanks in advance.
CJ
Right now the XJ has Futura Scramber A/P rubber all around. P215/75R15. I think they're Pep Boys' in house brand. Lots of tread left but they're old and starting to crack. (The XJ was left outside in the Southern California sun 24/7 by the previous owner.)
I'm looking for STOPPING POWER first and foremost since I don't find the Jeep's brakes very reassuring. (Made a panic stop the other day when someone cut me off and I must have skidded 30 feet. It did stop straight, though.)
Behind STOPPING, my next box to check is LEAST AMOUNT OF ROAD NOISE. After that, WEAR LIFE. Then COST. (Okay, cost is probably equal to road noise.)
Looking for the cushiest, car-like ride. The noise and feel of the Futuras are actually pretty good -- other than that pesky stopping issue.
Also, any reason to go up or down from the P215/75 size?
For financial reasons, I switched the rubber on my 1992 Nissan 300ZX from the amazing Goodyear Eagle F1 to an equivalent FALKEN tire and was very, very impressed. While the handling wasn't nearly the slot-car experience of the Goodies, the Falkens wore 3 times longer than the Goodies without any additional road noise. Wonder if anyone has personal experience with a specific model of FALKEN that would be best for the XJ and my needs stated above. But I'm open to any brand...
All opinions welcome.
Thanks in advance.
CJ
EDIT: you must also realize that it has two solid axles and leaf springs. You can make it ride nice but its never gonna be a caddilac
Last edited by BNJeepsta; May 8, 2012 at 02:37 PM.
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Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 95
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From: Pasadena, Ca.
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5L 4-cyl.
Well if you skidded 30 feet you must have pretty good stopping power! You could go up to a 235/75r15 for a better look and perhaps a bit smoother of a ride. I have a set of BFG long trail t/a's and they ride really nice. Not very agressive but would work well for what you need. They have about 35k on them now and are about 50% tread so they wear pretty good as well. If you really want a better ride and better handling get some zone or bilstien shocks.
EDIT: you must also realize that it has two solid axles and leaf springs. You can make it ride nice but its never gonna be a caddilac
EDIT: you must also realize that it has two solid axles and leaf springs. You can make it ride nice but its never gonna be a caddilac
I just checked an online stopping distance chart and you're right that 30' (if my guesstimate was right) was actually pretty good. Before I checked I was going tell you that I was only doing 25 or 30MPH thinking that was an excessive distance but it's on the good side for that speed. Guess skidding to a stop 3" behind a stopped car just scared to poop out of me. Also been driving my girlfriend's Audi A5 and that thing can stop on the proverbial dime.
And I don't need nor want a luxury car feel. Just something more car-like than truck-like.
Funny that you mentioned going larger for a smoother ride as I was reading advice where people said they went to a smaller tire on their Jeep for a smoother ride. Not sure what physics enter into either of those suggestions.
Thanks again.
CJ
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Joined: Nov 2009
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From: Aberdeen, MD
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
While my 1990 base model is 4WD I have no plans for off-roading. I'm using the Cherokee for hauling furniture and things for my business and am on a mix of city/suburban streets and Los Angeles freeways. So snow, mud, sand, etc, don't enter my equation -- but rain and road grease does.
Right now the XJ has Futura Scramber A/P rubber all around. P215/75R15. I think they're Pep Boys' in house brand. Lots of tread left but they're old and starting to crack. (The XJ was left outside in the Southern California sun 24/7 by the previous owner.)
I'm looking for STOPPING POWER first and foremost since I don't find the Jeep's brakes very reassuring. (Made a panic stop the other day when someone cut me off and I must have skidded 30 feet. It did stop straight, though.)
Behind STOPPING, my next box to check is LEAST AMOUNT OF ROAD NOISE. After that, WEAR LIFE. Then COST. (Okay, cost is probably equal to road noise.)
Looking for the cushiest, car-like ride. The noise and feel of the Futuras are actually pretty good -- other than that pesky stopping issue.
Also, any reason to go up or down from the P215/75 size?
For financial reasons, I switched the rubber on my 1992 Nissan 300ZX from the amazing Goodyear Eagle F1 to an equivalent FALKEN tire and was very, very impressed. While the handling wasn't nearly the slot-car experience of the Goodies, the Falkens wore 3 times longer than the Goodies without any additional road noise. Wonder if anyone has personal experience with a specific model of FALKEN that would be best for the XJ and my needs stated above. But I'm open to any brand...
All opinions welcome.
Thanks in advance.
CJ
Right now the XJ has Futura Scramber A/P rubber all around. P215/75R15. I think they're Pep Boys' in house brand. Lots of tread left but they're old and starting to crack. (The XJ was left outside in the Southern California sun 24/7 by the previous owner.)
I'm looking for STOPPING POWER first and foremost since I don't find the Jeep's brakes very reassuring. (Made a panic stop the other day when someone cut me off and I must have skidded 30 feet. It did stop straight, though.)
Behind STOPPING, my next box to check is LEAST AMOUNT OF ROAD NOISE. After that, WEAR LIFE. Then COST. (Okay, cost is probably equal to road noise.)
Looking for the cushiest, car-like ride. The noise and feel of the Futuras are actually pretty good -- other than that pesky stopping issue.
Also, any reason to go up or down from the P215/75 size?
For financial reasons, I switched the rubber on my 1992 Nissan 300ZX from the amazing Goodyear Eagle F1 to an equivalent FALKEN tire and was very, very impressed. While the handling wasn't nearly the slot-car experience of the Goodies, the Falkens wore 3 times longer than the Goodies without any additional road noise. Wonder if anyone has personal experience with a specific model of FALKEN that would be best for the XJ and my needs stated above. But I'm open to any brand...
All opinions welcome.
Thanks in advance.
CJ
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From: Warren, Pa
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
CJG:
Off topic, but what Falkens did you get? I'm looking at options for my Camaro.
Off topic, but what Falkens did you get? I'm looking at options for my Camaro.
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From: Frederick, MD from Cleveland, OH
Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
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Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 95
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From: Pasadena, Ca.
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5L 4-cyl.
Still, while fine for pushing the car in the twisties, the Falkens did not come close to the stickiness of those Goody F1s. But at over $200 a tire and changing them out every 15K miles is what made me switch to the Falkens -- which were 1/2 the price.
ETA: Just checked an old photo and, yes, they were Falken FK 452s...
Best,
CJ
Last edited by CJG; May 9, 2012 at 01:30 AM.
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Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 95
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From: Pasadena, Ca.
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5L 4-cyl.
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And what is the advantage of going up in size to a 235?
CJ