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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dredwolf
Keep in mind, just like using a long pry bar verus a short one, the lift blocks will increase the leverage the axle has against the leaf springs under power.

You see lift blocks on pickups, but they also fabricate or add various devices to deal with axle wrap, like a ladder bar or similar.
keep in mind pickups have leaf springs that are not only longer but also do not invert from just sitting under the vehicle. my truck had stock 2.5" lift blocks they were promptly removed when i went to a 6" leaf pack and ride quality has improved. there are other wonderful things lift blocks do such as come out at the most inopportune moments. you don't have to use them there are many better options out there a few of which are around that price. bastard pack, AAL, shackles all run about the same and don't have near the same number of risks.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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Ok I'm going to be putting some new re fixed lcas in on my jeep (which has a 4" lift). So from what I've gathered these are the steps: on one side take the wheel off and support that side of the axle with a jack that rolls. Next take out the old lca. Use a ratchet strap to pull that side of the axle forward. Put the new lca in. Put the wheel back on then lower it and then torque the lca down. Do the same to the other side. Is this correct? Thanks.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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I want to go from 3" lift to a 4-4.5" lift. The plan is to add a Shackle Relocation Kit http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_xtras_1117.html and my question is do I go with new springs or do I get the same flex with just using 1.5" lift blocks? Would the downward travel be the same for both? The tire can only stuff so far in the wheel well so upward travel is not as picky I was thinking. Does this sound right?
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeepxj1234
Ok I'm going to be putting some new re fixed lcas in on my jeep (which has a 4" lift). So from what I've gathered these are the steps: on one side take the wheel off and support that side of the axle with a jack that rolls. Next take out the old lca. Use a ratchet strap to pull that side of the axle forward. Put the new lca in. Put the wheel back on then lower it and then torque the lca down. Do the same to the other side. Is this correct? Thanks.
Jack it up in the middle of the axel. Place 2 jack stands just behind the rear LCA mounts. Replace both at the same time.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Skipper
I want to go from 3" lift to a 4-4.5" lift. The plan is to add a Shackle Relocation Kit http://www.roughcountry.com/jeep_xtras_1117.html and my question is do I go with new springs or do I get the same flex with just using 1.5" lift blocks? Would the downward travel be the same for both? The tire can only stuff so far in the wheel well so upward travel is not as picky I was thinking. Does this sound right?
When you say "lift blocks" are you refering to coil spacers? And what do you me "not as picky"?
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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Well I asked because I ordered the MagnaFlow cat back system (Part #: 15856) and after I got it I realized it won't fit - because of the tip - because there isn't enough room between the hitch and the shackle. obviously I don't want to remove the hitch (which, in other news, I worked over with my die grinder today and repainted with Rust-Oleum Rubberized Undercoating and it turned out really nice).

In reality, I'm going to send the MagnaFlow back and just get a FlowMaster 60 to replace the loud a$$ Xcelerator (no-cat) that I have now, but I was really stoked about the idea of all that stainless 2.5".
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stryker1228

Jack it up in the middle of the axel. Place 2 jack stands just behind the rear LCA mounts. Replace both at the same time.
Yeah that sounds like it would make more since but I've read where people say to do one at a time. Idk. And also should I break the bolts loose while it's on the ground or will there be less pressure on them when it's off the ground. Thanks.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeepxj1234
Yeah that sounds like it would make more since but I've read where people say to do one at a time. Idk. And also should I break the bolts loose while it's on the ground or will there be less pressure on them when it's off the ground. Thanks.
Break the bolts when it's off the ground. I used a 1/2" impact.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by stryker1228
Jack it up in the middle of the axel. Place 2 jack stands just behind the rear LCA mounts. Replace both at the same time.
i did mine one at a time. jackstand behind the jeep side LCA, and jack under the axle. threaded the axle side bolt/washer and jacked up and lowered the axle until the frame side lined up. took 2 tries and it was done that way.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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I think I might try it one at a time. But I think my biggest problem is going to be getting the bolts off. Better start pb blasting! Lol.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by stryker1228
When you say "lift blocks" are you referring to coil spacers? And what do you me "not as picky"?
Yes, I was talking about coil spacers on the front and the not as picky means that the upward travel is limited by the wheels hitting tops of the wheel wells so who cares about loosing upward travel by having coil spacers.

So is there really a loss by using coil spacers vs. a new one and a half inch longer coil? Will the downward travel be the same, or is one better than the other? If so, how much better?
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Skipper

Yes, I was talking about coil spacers on the front and the not as picky means that the upward travel is limited by the wheels hitting tops of the wheel wells so who cares about loosing upward travel by having coil spacers.

So is there really a loss by using coil spacers vs. a new one and a half inch longer coil? Will the downward travel be the same, or is one better than the other? If so, how much better?
I would just go with spacers. The downward travel difference wouldn't be much if any at all. I would recommend new coils if you were putting in bigger leafs as well but you're using relocation brackets. Which if fine. Go with the spacers. They're cheaper and will give you the same performance.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Skipper
Yes, I was talking about coil spacers on the front and the not as picky means that the upward travel is limited by the wheels hitting tops of the wheel wells so who cares about loosing upward travel by having coil spacers.

So is there really a loss by using coil spacers vs. a new one and a half inch longer coil? Will the downward travel be the same, or is one better than the other? If so, how much better?
i prefer not to use spacers
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
i prefer not to use spacers
From a guy that proclaims the "Liberal use of duct-tape and zip-ties" LOL

Seriously man, why not use spacer in this instance. I agree I would not build a lift out of them but for another inch, inch and a half I don't know, that is why I am asking.

What are the advantages to springs over coil spacers in this instance?
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Skipper

From a guy that proclaims the "Liberal use of duct-tape and zip-ties" LOL

Seriously man, why not use spacer in this instance. I agree I would not build a lift out of them but for another inch, inch and a half I don't know, that is why I am asking.

What are the advantages to springs over coil spacers in this instance?
Absolutely nothing.
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