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Old 01-21-2016, 01:13 PM
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Picked up my 91 XJ from the local 4x4 shop today. They installed my Zone 4 1/2" lift kit. The kit included transfer case drop kit, new stabilizer kits, and lower control arms. I took it out on highway got it up to 85 no vibrations or new noises. Still has stock tires and wheels till tax refund comes.



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Originally Posted by a_shirey
With the way the XJ shackle is housed or boxed in, wouldn't the shackle have to break through that as well? Seems like the shackle wouldn't just push through that.
On XJwonder's latest it probably would... rust level approaching my Heep
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
That brings up a good question.

Has anyone seen an XJ invert a shackle?

It's a common problem on YJs, which is why I have booms on both ends mine. Their original purpose is to bend around the rear crossmember so the leaf springs can compress more.
All good points. I really never gave it much thought. Man.... I feel like such a sheep.

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On XJwonder's latest it probably would... rust level approaching my Heep
lol... k that's bad
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I want to do a 3" lift on my '89 xj. I see people doing s10 leaf spring bastard packs. I have a set of '94 Chevy 1500 leaf packs I can get for free. Will they work like the s10 ones?? I've searched but can find a definitive answer.
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Originally Posted by Hunt_U_Down
I want to do a 3" lift on my '89 xj. I see people doing s10 leaf spring bastard packs. I have a set of '94 Chevy 1500 leaf packs I can get for free. Will they work like the s10 ones?? I've searched but can find a definitive answer.
Are they 2.5" wide and designed to be Sprung Under Axle in their stock configuration? If so, it should work. The spring rate may be rather high.

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I am running 31x10.5x15 OWL Duratracs on my 4D 2 WD 2001 Cherokee and small lift. I am not sure about the tire pressure I should use for on road use. The tire says max PSI is 50 and I am running 40 and it seems to ride fine but I would like to know what you guys say. Thanks Sandyman
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More like 30

Draw a line across the tires with some chalk. Drive around a bit and see how the chalk is worn: If it's worn at the edges, you need more air; If it's worn in the middle, less.
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Thanks, I will do that tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
Are they 2.5" wide and designed to be Sprung Under Axle in their stock configuration? If so, it should work. The spring rate may be rather high.
Um not completely sure on either of those. I'll have to measure. But I do know they are currently sitting over the axle if that helps and yes it is at stock height. When you say spring rate is high, do you mean they will be kind of a stiff ride??
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Originally Posted by Hunt_U_Down
Um not completely sure on either of those. I'll have to measure. But I do know they are currently sitting over the axle if that helps and yes it is at stock height. When you say spring rate is high, do you mean they will be kind of a stiff ride??
If spring is sitting on top of the axle on the would be donor vehicle, then that vehicle is considered spring over axle. If the springs were under the axle, the. There would be more arch in the springs. This arch is what results in more lift when you make a bastard pack.

Regarding spring rate. A higher spring rate will result in a stiffer ride. A full size truck will most likely have stiffer springs to cope with the heavy loads they are designed to handle.

The s10 is a good donor because the springs are mounted under the axle, so there's a lot of arch, and it's a light duty vehicle so the spring rate is lower resulting in a smoother ride. They are also 2.5" wide.

The spring width is important just so the stack of springs can be clamped together safely.
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Originally Posted by RedJeepster1
If spring is sitting on top of the axle on the would be donor vehicle, then that vehicle is considered spring over axle. If the springs were under the axle, the. There would be more arch in the springs. This arch is what results in more lift when you make a bastard pack.

Regarding spring rate. A higher spring rate will result in a stiffer ride. A full size truck will most likely have stiffer springs to cope with the heavy loads they are designed to handle.

The s10 is a good donor because the springs are mounted under the axle, so there's a lot of arch, and it's a light duty vehicle so the spring rate is lower resulting in a smoother ride. They are also 2.5" wide.

The spring width is important just so the stack of springs can be clamped together safely.
Exactly. Thank you
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Originally Posted by jay_sco
Here's a chart for control arm length/lift. I'd adjust them close to this.






Suspension work is a breeze on these things. Keep us posted on progress!
Running into an issue. Stock LCAs are 16.75" long. The chart says they should be 15.75", and longer by .25" with a 3" lift. I think I'll set the new ones .25" longer than my stockers.
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Originally Posted by ElMartillo
Running into an issue. Stock LCAs are 16.75" long. The chart says they should be 15.75", and longer by .25" with a 3" lift. I think I'll set the new ones .25" longer than my stockers.
Are you sure they're stock and you're measuring center to center on the eyes?
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They sure look stock, and yes that's how I'm measuring.
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I went with the manufacturer's suggestion of 16.25"

Installing rear springs/shocks so I haven't driven it yet.


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