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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad
This^ I use with RE monotube shocks and RE adj. trackbar...soon to add adj. upper and lower ca's.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt Diver
This^ I use with RE monotube shocks and RE adj. trackbar...soon to add adj. upper and lower ca's.
Can you get away with the stock track bar? Just curious. Planning on that lift and the 4 RE shock that it suggested on Quadratec
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KarmaJeep
Can you get away with the stock track bar? Just curious. Planning on that lift and the 4 RE shock that it suggested on Quadratec
You have to drill a new hole to mount the original track bar. Since the jeep is higher, it pulls your track bar to the right about an inch to an inch and a half. I let my buddy drill the hole, which I didn't notice was not perfectly round, which led to the bolt loosening up and caused vibes. Some people weld washers in place to keep this from happening, but it's just smarter to buy the adjustable track bar. I lucked out. I found mine on craigslist for $60 from a guy who bought it, then someone wrecked his Cherokee before he installed it. Bonus for me. You can use it, but I would do it temporarily and just start looking for an adjustable.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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What people fail to consider is that tie rod ends are wear parts. Drilling a new hole to reuse the factory track bar with a lift is stupid. I don't care who does it and says they don't have problems. It is stupid.

That's a vital piece of your suspension, and you're using a wear part of at least 13 years (if an '01) to hold your freshly lifted rig. Buy a track bar for your comfort, for your budget, and for the safety of everyone else on the road.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
What people fail to consider is that tie rod ends are wear parts. Drilling a new hole to reuse the factory track bar with a lift is stupid. I don't care who does it and says they don't have problems. It is stupid.

That's a vital piece of your suspension, and you're using a wear part of at least 13 years (if an '01) to hold your freshly lifted rig. Buy a track bar for your comfort, for your budget, and for the safety of everyone else on the road.
True stuff man, if I'm gonna do it might as well do it right! I've got an order in which I'm getting things budget and usability wise.. RE lift pack, shocks, and track bar are first on the list. The one I'm looking at on seriousoffroad is $120 and fits 3.5 lift, sounds right to me.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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^^!
I also strongly advise against drilling a separate hole for the trackbar for the above stated reasons.
If you must use the stock bar for a bit, use this relocation bracket;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/18305-02-Rear-Track-Bar-Relocation-Bracket-84-01-Jeep-Cherokee-XJ-/400697403960?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d4b6d2a38&vxp=mtr
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
What people fail to consider is that tie rod ends are wear parts. Drilling a new hole to reuse the factory track bar with a lift is stupid. I don't care who does it and says they don't have problems. It is stupid. That's a vital piece of your suspension, and you're using a wear part of at least 13 years (if an '01) to hold your freshly lifted rig. Buy a track bar for your comfort, for your budget, and for the safety of everyone else on the road.
Being this is my first XJ, learned all this the hard way. And the mechanic that was helping me with my install was running an XJ on 6" with 35's, and constantly bragged about his mods. After dealing with his "help" on several occasions, I have learned to stay away from their shop.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt Diver
Being this is my first XJ, learned all this the hard way. And the mechanic that was helping me with my install was running an XJ on 6" with 35's, and constantly bragged about his mods. After dealing with his "help" on several occasions, I have learned to stay away from their shop.
anyone with 35's on a 6" lift should automatically be discredited anyways

talk to the guys on low lifts and big tires, they know their stuff
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt Diver
Being this is my first XJ, learned all this the hard way. And the mechanic that was helping me with my install was running an XJ on 6" with 35's, and constantly bragged about his mods. After dealing with his "help" on several occasions, I have learned to stay away from their shop.
A 6" lift on an XJ requires an entirely new steering design. The inverted Y setup is no good above 5" tops, and if he considers track bar relocation to be a proper fix, then you made a good decision to stay away.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
A 6" lift on an XJ requires an entirely new steering design. The inverted Y setup is no good above 5" tops, and if he considers track bar relocation to be a proper fix, then you made a good decision to stay away.

^*^^^ I wouldn't be surprised if that guy stacked blocks and was still short arm on factory arms
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom95YJ

^*^^^ I wouldn't be surprised if that guy stacked blocks and was still short arm on factory arms
Ha, i bet
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom95YJ
^*^^^ I wouldn't be surprised if that guy stacked blocks and was still short arm on factory arms
Oh, no...his setup is pretty sound...later found out it was bought, not built. I had to go back and double check any work he did and retorqued anything he may have touched. His jeep recently became the newest member at a local junkyard after he sold all the goods on it. He said, "The engine finally gave up on life." I looked at him and said, "I'm pretty sure you probably killed it."
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt Diver
Oh, no...his setup is pretty sound...later found out it was bought, not built. I had to go back and double check any work he did and retorqued anything he may have touched. His jeep recently became the newest member at a local junkyard after he sold all the goods on it. He said, "The engine finally gave up on life." I looked at him and said, "I'm pretty sure you probably killed it."
And you can replace the I6 for under $500 any day of the week.

...but let's get back on topic
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
...but let's get back on topic
Hitting up the yard tomorrow to see if he missed any components...

Ok, back on topic...shims, are these acceptable or should I not waste my time/$? I'm pretty sure my driveline is off, but not by much. I got a angle finder so I can get under and check the angles, but someone told me that shimming is bad...thoughts?

Before someone hits me with, "just get a sye kit and such," I just bought my daughter's airline tickets for this summer's visit, as well as a few other unexpected bills that seem to come up every time I think I saved enough. So, this one is out of the question for now.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 07:52 PM
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Leaf spring sliders: Opinions?

I'd be interested to hear from any of you engineers or others who are familiar with the numbers and details of how they work compared to shackles.

Specifically, I'm interested in regards to my next XJ which will be lowered and go-fast. How would they affect stability and predictability?
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