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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by farmerjohnson
well the ifs your thinking out is different than the one im thinking of. the stuff gm uses on the civilian side sucks. but the hummve? come on, could you ask for a more capable vehicle right off the factory line? and also the 4.0 will be eventually swapped for a 6.2 diesel. maybe with the 6.5 td head and turbo if there is room.....
IFS is IFS no matter what it comes from...

and if you need any info on the 6.2 swap get with me... i bought everything to do it with my other jeep... had a 6.2turbod/727/241 with drivers side drop and everything ready to go... then decided not to go big and buy another one and keep it simple bolt ons... well that didnt work... now its on tons and 40's... but i know everything there is to know about swapping a 6.2in... and not but a couple have done it...
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Drew M

And when you add more weight to the front such as a new bumper or winch then what do you do to get that height you just lost back? Oh yeah - you buy NEW rubber spacers and start the process over again.
No. If you did your lift correct the 1st time you wouldn't need the spacers. Your springs would all match in height. If you planned on getting a winch bumper and/or whatever accesories, you'd put them on first THEN take the measurements to see what you need and put them on one time.
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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No. If you did your lift correct the 1st time you wouldn't need the spacers. Your springs would all match in height. If you planned on getting a winch bumper and/or whatever accesories, you'd put them on first THEN take the measurements to see what you need and put them on one time.
course i wanted to argue this same thing but i just left it alone... lol... this "approach" is what i take so i dont need spacers (quick fix)...
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by huntingman2706217
course i wanted to argue this same thing but i just left it alone... lol... this "approach" is what i take so i dont need spacers (quick fix)...
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Lyon
No. If you did your lift correct the 1st time you wouldn't need the spacers. Your springs would all match in height. If you planned on getting a winch bumper and/or whatever accesories, you'd put them on first THEN take the measurements to see what you need and put them on one time.
SO what you are saying is that if your winch and bumper sag your front end you did your lift wrong - or you should have bought your winch/bumper/everything else BEFORE you did your lift?

You must also be one of those people who know exactly how much added weight will sag a front end.

I commend you on your gift.
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil Drew M
SO what you are saying is that if your winch and bumper sag your front end you did your lift wrong - or you should have bought your winch/bumper/everything else BEFORE you did your lift?

You must also be one of those people who know exactly how much added weight will sag a front end.

I commend you on your gift.
^^ that AND you could say "well... all this extra weight on my jeep now makes it sit unlever.... looks like 2 more inches will make it sit level... ill buy 6.5in springs now... swap them for my 4.5in springs... my jeep will sit level with no spacers or honda accord coilovers and i can sell my 4.5in springs for the same price as a good used set of 6.5in springs... then my jeep will be done right!"
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by huntingman2706217
^^ that AND you could say "well... all this extra weight on my jeep now makes it sit unlever.... looks like 2 more inches will make it sit level... ill buy 6.5in springs now... swap them for my 4.5in springs... my jeep will sit level with no spacers or honda accord coilovers and i can sell my 4.5in springs for the same price as a good used set of 6.5in springs... then my jeep will be done right!"
In an ideal world . . .
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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y does it matter that much not everyone on here is an expert at putting lifts in and the adjustable spacers is a good idea instead of spending money on spacers incase u want to go higher u can just twist the adj spacer and be done and not waste anymore money and most people do their lifts wrong anyways and get sag after a few days
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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Holy punctuation Batman!
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
Holy punctuation Batman!
Glad to see I'm not the only one.
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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welcome to 2011... thats a whole nother argument... lol
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil Drew M
Glad to see I'm not the only one.
Originally Posted by huntingman2706217
welcome to 2011... thats a whole nother argument... lol
Its not against the rules, I just like giving people a hard time.
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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It should be....I flat don't read the crap!!
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by COSXJFAN
It should be....I flat don't read the crap!!
I agree. the other forum I am on enforces it.

I just ignore those posts, as you do. Maybe skim through, but it never registers.
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Update:

The sleeves don't fit. I don't know if the ones I got are a little smaller than some others out there or if the bumpstop tubes on a 97+ are a larger diameter than on older XJs (I have no way to test either theory currently) but they are simply too small.

I used a cylinder hone to try and open them up as well as sanded the paint and some metal off my tubes but in the end I was never able to get them on more than an inch.

The sleeves I bought were 2.5" ID and my tubes are 2.6ish" OD. I know that doesn't sound like much difference but it is roughly 3-4mm different and that is a good bit to overcome.

I'd love to see some other measurements however.

EDIT: YES I ground off some of the bumpstop seat flare. That isn't where it is coming to a stop.

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