Tracker vs Cherokee
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From: Raleigh,NC
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
You can always swap a tracker motor in a sammy, very popular swap. But yeah trackers will go decent since they're short wheel base and light, but there is just no comparison with ifs and a solid front end. I've wheeled with ifs (s10 blazer) and it did not work very well at all for my style. Sure an ifs will work better at speed and on the road though.
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From: Jefferson City, MO
Year: 1990
Engine: 4.0
I like the 1.6 swap for the Samurai, but then you're talking down time, I can't have an unusable vehicle sitting in the garage I have to be able to drive it daily. I am considering the Calmini solid axle swap for the Tracker if I decide to trade.
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From: Raleigh,NC
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
Yeah and you're probably going to see just as much down time doing a SAS as a motor swap. But if that were the case I would go with the typical yota axle route. It would be the same outcome with a samurai or tracker I suppose. It's not everyday that you see a tracker on the trails either.
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From: Jefferson City, MO
Year: 1990
Engine: 4.0
That's one of my issues, I hate the norm, and Cherokee are becoming such a common builder. I like something a little more unique. There are NO lifted Trackers around here. I've seen 1 in like 10 years.
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From: Big Lake, Alaska
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 ho
jeep. No question.
I have two buddys that wheel trackers, one on 31"s and one on 33"s. Niether can pull the tires well and never leave 4lo on the trails. IIRC the 1.6 with 5 speed manual already runs 5.13 or so ratios in the axles, I wouldnt want to drop them much lower.. so now you have to look into lowering the gearing in the Tcase, which is about $700 in parts + labor if you cant do it yourself.. In the end, you have a tiny 4 cylinder spinning 4K rpm's in the mud and STILL cant clean out the tires.
They go threw engine like I go threw beer... currently swapping in the 3'rd engine in the buddys yellow tracker in 2 years.
IFS SUCKS.
No room in the tracker.
Where did you hear the tracker got better MPG? My 4.0ho gets better gas milage then either the trackers my buddys own.
They are fairly good TRAIL rigs in stock form, but far from a mudder or rock crawler.
I have two buddys that wheel trackers, one on 31"s and one on 33"s. Niether can pull the tires well and never leave 4lo on the trails. IIRC the 1.6 with 5 speed manual already runs 5.13 or so ratios in the axles, I wouldnt want to drop them much lower.. so now you have to look into lowering the gearing in the Tcase, which is about $700 in parts + labor if you cant do it yourself.. In the end, you have a tiny 4 cylinder spinning 4K rpm's in the mud and STILL cant clean out the tires.
They go threw engine like I go threw beer... currently swapping in the 3'rd engine in the buddys yellow tracker in 2 years.
IFS SUCKS.
No room in the tracker.
Where did you hear the tracker got better MPG? My 4.0ho gets better gas milage then either the trackers my buddys own.

They are fairly good TRAIL rigs in stock form, but far from a mudder or rock crawler.
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From: Franksville, Wi
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
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Year: 1990
Engine: 4.0
jeep. No question.
I have two buddys that wheel trackers, one on 31"s and one on 33"s. Niether can pull the tires well and never leave 4lo on the trails. IIRC the 1.6 with 5 speed manual already runs 5.13 or so ratios in the axles, I wouldnt want to drop them much lower.. so now you have to look into lowering the gearing in the Tcase, which is about $700 in parts + labor if you cant do it yourself.. In the end, you have a tiny 4 cylinder spinning 4K rpm's in the mud and STILL cant clean out the tires.
They go threw engine like I go threw beer... currently swapping in the 3'rd engine in the buddys yellow tracker in 2 years.
IFS SUCKS.
No room in the tracker.
Where did you hear the tracker got better MPG? My 4.0ho gets better gas milage then either the trackers my buddys own.
They are fairly good TRAIL rigs in stock form, but far from a mudder or rock crawler.
I have two buddys that wheel trackers, one on 31"s and one on 33"s. Niether can pull the tires well and never leave 4lo on the trails. IIRC the 1.6 with 5 speed manual already runs 5.13 or so ratios in the axles, I wouldnt want to drop them much lower.. so now you have to look into lowering the gearing in the Tcase, which is about $700 in parts + labor if you cant do it yourself.. In the end, you have a tiny 4 cylinder spinning 4K rpm's in the mud and STILL cant clean out the tires.
They go threw engine like I go threw beer... currently swapping in the 3'rd engine in the buddys yellow tracker in 2 years.
IFS SUCKS.
No room in the tracker.
Where did you hear the tracker got better MPG? My 4.0ho gets better gas milage then either the trackers my buddys own.

They are fairly good TRAIL rigs in stock form, but far from a mudder or rock crawler.
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From: Big Lake, Alaska
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 ho
That up to you to figure out, think of things most people dont do.. heck idk, build a XJ prerunner. 
I'd be more worreid about having a vehicle that will do what I want it to do, then being different what everone els has.

I'd be more worreid about having a vehicle that will do what I want it to do, then being different what everone els has.
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From: Jefferson City, MO
Year: 1990
Engine: 4.0
Well I want it to do everything I want and not look like every other XJ, not sure what direction to take but if I ever had tools and the skills to fab, I'd be dangerous.
Like with my Bronco II project.
Like with my Bronco II project.
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From: Maine
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 inline 6
I got burned out, it became more and more of a hassle and all I had were projects sitting around I couldn't wheel. Some local shops told me they would get me in and do the stuff I paid in advanced for, I'd call and they say yeah I have this done and this done, I'd show up unannounced and nothing would be done my **** would be sitting in the weeds. One shop it sat there 7 months, the other one 9 months and they never did a thing to them.
So I quit, I didn't have the tools nor the know how to do the stuff myself. I had an idea for exactly what I wanted, had the parts and the money to pay for labor and people shafted me.
So I quit, I didn't have the tools nor the know how to do the stuff myself. I had an idea for exactly what I wanted, had the parts and the money to pay for labor and people shafted me.
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From: York, PA
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Google and gather ideas. search build threads. No matter what you end up building, you can always get mod ideas from XJ's or any other build. As far as I'm concerned, every XJ is unique. And people who are passionate about it can do some amazing things--i see it on here every day.
I once felt the same way--I had a lifted Ranger on 33's and would go wheeling with all my Jeep buddies. And more than keep up with them (even with IFS!) but the lack of local and aftermarket support for my Ranger, but mostly the frame rot, were ultimately why I went with the XJ--huge local following, my friends have them and know about them and the aftermarket support is just phenomenal.
Excellent points indeed. I suppose if I keep the Jeep, the question becomes how do I get my Cherokee to really stand out and be different from the others. I am up to the challenge.
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Year: 1986
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.8
^^^^ got to agree with my alter ego. Not every xj looks the same and not all are built the same. I don't think anyone would mistake my rig for anyone else's in town or on the trail. I've yet to go on a trail ride where dudes were mistakingly hopping into others rigs. 
You see so many xjs on the trail because they're a proven platform. They work well and can be built on any budget. Stop looking for brand new stuff if you can't afford it. I picked up my front winch bumper for $125 used off another forum. Guys are always parting out and upgrading their junk, so there are deals out there.

You see so many xjs on the trail because they're a proven platform. They work well and can be built on any budget. Stop looking for brand new stuff if you can't afford it. I picked up my front winch bumper for $125 used off another forum. Guys are always parting out and upgrading their junk, so there are deals out there.
Ive had both. My first 4x4 was an 89 Suzuki Sidekick (same thing as a Tracker). Mine had the 1.6, 3 speed auto (GM TH180 iirc). Lifted it 3", locked front, mini spool in the rear, and 31" LTBs. Only downsides were IFS (because of the lack of flex, it was strong though, nothing like the pos IFS my Chevy had), and no power steering. The coil sprung rear suspension was nice, and it went everywhere I pointed it, and was really a great little rig. My dad still has it, so I still drive it occasionally, and gas mileage and power are comparable to my 2.5 5 speed XJ.
However, I love that my XJ has a real front axle. The longer wheelbase feels better offroad, and I do love my XJ. And it's American built.
If I was faced with the decision to choose between one or the other right now, I'd pick the XJ over the Sidekick/Tracker. More capable out of the box, and if you get a 4.0, much more powerful. And I can buy 2 XJs for what the book value is on a Sidekick/Tracker. There is much more aftermarket support for the XJ as well, unless a lot has changed in the past couple years. The 3" suspension lift I put on my Suzuki was about the biggest suspension lift I could find at the time, and it cost me quite a bit more than the 3" I'm piecing together for my Jeep.
That's just my 2 cents worth though. Both are great vehicles, both on and off road, and I wouldnt hesitate to buy either, but the XJ is the better 4x4 imo.
However, I love that my XJ has a real front axle. The longer wheelbase feels better offroad, and I do love my XJ. And it's American built.
If I was faced with the decision to choose between one or the other right now, I'd pick the XJ over the Sidekick/Tracker. More capable out of the box, and if you get a 4.0, much more powerful. And I can buy 2 XJs for what the book value is on a Sidekick/Tracker. There is much more aftermarket support for the XJ as well, unless a lot has changed in the past couple years. The 3" suspension lift I put on my Suzuki was about the biggest suspension lift I could find at the time, and it cost me quite a bit more than the 3" I'm piecing together for my Jeep.
That's just my 2 cents worth though. Both are great vehicles, both on and off road, and I wouldnt hesitate to buy either, but the XJ is the better 4x4 imo.


