Tires won't balance!
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Tires won't balance!
I have been having some pretty bad death wobble recently. I replaced the track bar with an Iron Rock double shear bar. Added a rough country dual steering stabilizer, and it didn't change a thing. I ended up taking my jeep into a local 4x4 shop to see what they could do. Said one of my control arm bushings was bad so they replaced that and still nothing. They said they think its my tires because they added almost 10 oz. of weight and still couldn't get them balanced, however, I have heard of some people needing up to 13oz to get theirs balanced so I'm not sure if they know as much as they think they do. I was just wondering now if anyone know of a place that specialized in balancing large difficult tires or have had success anywhere with getting difficult tires balanced. I need these things balanced! Also need an alignment done desperately so I need to find a place that does a good job on alignment on lifted jeeps. I've got a 6.5" lift on 33x12.5x15 Goodyear MT/R's. Need to know asap! Any help would be awesome!
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There also are these. They cost more than the beads but IMO the beads were a knockoff of these. I'm not saying the beads don't work but these only need to be installed once.
http://www.parksoffroad.com/johnsjee...entramatic.htm
http://www.parksoffroad.com/johnsjee...entramatic.htm
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I've heard about balancing beads and considered getting them but heard that they don't really start balancing the tires until about 45mph+? Is this true? Because mine start wobbling around 35-45 so if it's true then wouldn't they be pretty much iniffective in my case?
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You need to look around and find someone who knows what they are doing with a good balancer. The new Hunter machines will match mount the tires to the wheels, it takes a long time but can be done. The newer machines can also tell you if a tire and wheel has excessive runout.
Most of the time when I get a tire that is out of balance by a large amout of weight, I will brake the tire down and rotate it on the rim 180* (unless you have beadlocks) this will in some cases cut the required weight in half and make the tire easier to balance.
Fix-a-flat or water will also make a tire nearly impossible to balance. However if you have a cord seperation in the tire there may be nothing you can do but replace the tire(s). In most cases, after I have checked the suspension to be in good working condition and the alignment is correct, I have found tire(s) to be the main cause for death wobble.
Most of the time when I get a tire that is out of balance by a large amout of weight, I will brake the tire down and rotate it on the rim 180* (unless you have beadlocks) this will in some cases cut the required weight in half and make the tire easier to balance.
Fix-a-flat or water will also make a tire nearly impossible to balance. However if you have a cord seperation in the tire there may be nothing you can do but replace the tire(s). In most cases, after I have checked the suspension to be in good working condition and the alignment is correct, I have found tire(s) to be the main cause for death wobble.
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Here's a thought. It kicked my butt one time.
Someone had used Fix-A-Flat in the tires. Kept moving around inside.
Someone had used Fix-A-Flat in the tires. Kept moving around inside.
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So should I try getting them balanced again at a different shop and try balancing beads as a last resort or just go straight to the beads?? I've heard different opinions on them. Anyone have any success with them in tires like these? Also, good place to get alignment??
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As far as shops go, you're kinda on your own there...start calling different shops in your area, explain your situation to them, and when you get someone who knows what the hell they're talking about, take it to them. Get all of your other issues dealt with first, alignment, repairs, etc., and have them check the date of manufacture on your tires. Anything older than 6 years should be replaced. Once you have everything mechanically sound up front, deal with your balance issue. You may have something going wonky, like a flat spot or tread separation in your tires, replacement may be necessary. When they install and/or balance your tires, have them indexed. Takes longer but if done properly you will need little to no weight. It's your call on the beads. Like I said, I use them and will never use stick on weights again. Bottom line is you need to start calling around and find a shop worth it's salt.